12 Dec 16 17:54, you wrote to me:

 NB>>> 1) Golded's area screen and message header's CP437 line drawings
 NB>>> don't display properly in a UTF-8 console.

 ml>> they will if you use the CP437 wrapper binary but then you lose full
 ml>> UTF-8 capability...

 NB> The whole point is to have full UTF-8 capability. A CP437 wrapper binary
 NB> would only ruin that.

yeahbut you can see those drawing characters properly! now, if someone would
figure how to map them to their UTF-8 representations, then we'd be a whole lot
better off... i spent many hours mucking about on my web site just trying to
get them to show properly in file descriptions (where they shouldn't even be)
and finally got something that was ""acceptable"" but left a bad taste
behind... properly mapping them would take care of this going forward... as
long as that mapping is done locally and only for display... once one tries to
take tha and move backward so their BBS users can also see them, it won't work
because the mapping is one way only :(

 NB>>> 2) Most UTF-8 text is not displayed properly in Golded.

 ml>> understandable :)

 NB>>> 3) It will never be updated to support the above.

 ml>> it might but no one knows for sure...

 NB> I've been told by Stas as well as others that they wouldn't do it. So
 NB> unless someone comes out of the woodwork and makes it happen, I'm going to
 NB> stick with my hunch.

considering that we don't hear from them any more, it is also, sadly,
understandable :(

 NB>>> I'm looking for a solution that works well on my own system, rather
 NB>>> than using hacks and workarounds to things look like they're
 NB>>> working.

 ml>> ummm... wait... didn't you just describe the entire BBS behind the
 ml>> scenes operation?? WTH? :lol:

 NB> I'm not sure what you mean here. My BBS has nothing to do with this.
 NB> Two completely separate message bases at this point in time.

i was point to the thing that sysops are always having to do ""weird stuff"
behind the scenes to make things work they way they want them to appear to be
working for their users... the users see only a smooth flow and have no clue
what the operator is doing boiling potions and casting spells to make work... i
have several things on my system that simply wouldn't be done without 4DOS/4OS2
and the ability to display external files or call external scripts...

 NB>>> slrn seems to act quite a bit like Golded in regards to coloring and
 NB>>> basic movement, and when paired up with vim I seem to be able to
 NB>>> both read and write in my current locale while utilizing iconv
 NB>>> rather than old outdated character translation files that only
 NB>>> support 256 characters.

 NB>>> Lastly, why not? :)

 ml>> hehehehe :)

 NB> Just something else to tinker with. :)

i can think of plenty of other things "to tinker with" but one's partner might
not be so willing all the time ;) :)

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