From: Monte Davis 

On Tue, 2 May 2000 10:02:15 -0700, "Bill Mattox"
 wrote, among other things:

>At that time, even Clinton's spokepeople and apologists were operating under
>the assumption that no warrant existed... and were all making excuses as to
>why it was unnecessary.
>
>Information on its existance did not come out until later.

Let's not talk about Clinton's people, Bill. Let's talk about people right
here. People who make statements that would would later embarrass them,
were they capable of embarrassment.

Raymond "Here's the Lowdown" Chuang posted on 4/23 at 8:47 pm,
amid a hail of comparisons to the Gestapo and the NKVD:

>Unfortunately, the INS did one thing that is definitely illegal: they forgot
>to get a proper search warrant from ANY court.

And Bill "Get Yer Factoids Here" Mattox posted on 4/22 at 5:16 pm:

> They had no warrant so the jack-booted raid was likely a typical Clintonista
flaunting of the law.

and on 4/22 at 10 pm:

> This kneejerked, unauthorized, jackbooted mentality

[If "unauthorized" doesn't mean warrantless, what does it mean --
if anything?]

and on 4/23 at 11:34 am:

> there was nothing clear-cut that would give Clinton the right to do what he
did.

and finally, on 4/23 at 8:47 pm:

> The latest spin is that they DID have a warrant. We'll see.

One could say "spin"... or one could say "reality begins to
dawn on Bill, and he scouts for an escape route from his
defend-to-the-death bunker."

As a member of the Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy, I have secret sources of
information: namely CNN, which mentioned the warrant no later than 1 pm on
4/22 (when I heard it in California), and CBS' Face The Nation Sunday
morning 4/23, where INS Commissioner Meissner discussed when and where it
had been obtained.

IOW, both you and Raymond were talking vehemently and confidently from a
place where the sun don't shine.

-Monte 

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