From: "Joe Barr" 


The MS fabricated TCO goes right out the window in any case.  But expect
more of the same.  Lying is what MS does best.  It's their products that
suck.





On Sun, 05 Jan 2003 00:33:39 +0000, Adam Flinton wrote:

>
> "Geo."  wrote in message
news:3e174d55$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
>> news:3e171f48$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > http://www.zdnet.com/filters/printerfriendly/0,6061,2907876-92,00.html
>>
>> from the article:
>>
>> <"What I've found is that a Linux administrator who knows what he's
>> doing should be able to administer two to three times the amount of
>> boxes a Windows administrator should be able to administer,"
he said. >
>>
>> Their whole tco study is based on this premise, which I believe to be
>> not only false but totally baseless. Where is the proof for this classic
>> assumption? This is what they offer:
>>
>> > tech/business researcher Robert Frances Group (RFG), supports
>> Schenkenfelder's claims. Robinson acknowledges that experienced admins
>> for Linux or Solaris can be more expensive in some parts of the United
>> States but noted that many of them have been working with Unix for
>> dozens of
> years.
>>
>> "One of the things that Microsoft is starting to lose out on now, and
>> I'm not sure they realize this yet, is that they still claim Windows
>> administrators are cheaper," Robinson said. "But the
flip side of the
>> same coin is that if one of my administrators on a Windows environment
>> can
> manage
>> only 10 to 15 systems at a time, but my Solaris admin or my NetBSD or my
>> Linux admin can manage 1,000 servers at a time, I need fewer admins.
>> Sure, the salary's more expensive, but I get more life out of
them."  >
>>
>> THEY ARE ASSUMING a windows admin can only manage 10 machines but a unix
>> admin can manage 1000? ROFL!!!!!
>>
>> What did the linux community do, hire Microsoft's old PR firm?
>>
>>
> Yup. Thought you'd raise those points. Heck lets the games begin I
> say....Bread & circus'es for me 
>
> Never the less.....if all things are equal but a Linux/Unix admin can
> admin more boxes more easily...then the MS TCO stuff goes right out of the
> window....
>
> I know lets organize a "adminathon" where faults are created by evil
> people with a sense of humour spinning a random problem generator (e.g. a
> dice or the thing from twister) 
>
> Innnnn the blue corner wearing mostly his lunch is........
>
> Adam

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