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from: Dg411{at}freenet.Carleton.Ca
date: 2005-03-28 14:00:00
subject: Re: No more of this men!

Dave Symn (DSymnpathy{at}yahoo.comnope) writes:
> On 25 Mar 2005 23:34:56 GMT, Andre Lieven wrote:
>
>>> some women can outplay some men in some sports,
>>
>> So, how come no women in sport, want to play a championship against
>> their sport's mens teams... ?
>
> that is, in one way, irrelevant to the argument that "some women can
> outplay some men in some sports". Are you suggesting, that even in your own
> town, you could not find some women who were better at certain sports, than
> some men?

Thats actually the straw woman. In that, whats the *trendline* on the
issue, not whether one can, or cnanot find *exceptions* to the usual.

>>> altho it may well be an uncommon thing.
>>
>> No, its a greatly uncommon thing. If it were common, women's teams
>> would *demand* to play championships against their sport's mens teams.
>>
>> Look at the Feminist try to " integrate " the Augusta
golf club. Did
>> they offer to *give up* the one sex only LPGA ? Nope !
>>
>>> same thing about the outworking.
>>
>> No proof offered ? Claim fails.
>
> LOL! You and your stupid Claim Fails routine.

If it's so " stupid ", then you could offer PROOF that it's wrong.

But... you *couldn't do that*. So, all you can do is bitch and whine.
Too bad, so sad. For you. 

> No proof offered there either; it's an opinion.

" No one is entitled to their opinion. They are only entitled to an
*informed* opinion. " Harlan Ellison.

>>> that doesnt change the fact that Brian Nichols overpowered the guard not
>>> becuase it was female, but because it was small and weak and old.
>>
>> AND female... Whihc *is why* that guard was " small and weak
and old. "
>
> No proof offered. Claim fails.

Not that well briefed on biology are you, mate ?

> Are you suggesting there were NO small and weak and old male guards
> anywhere in the correctional system?

I am suggesting that such men tend not to be hired in the first place,
as the pics of the perp surrounded by over 6 foot and 250 pound MEN
guards suggests...

>>> Same
>>> kinda man in the same situation, might have gotten his head punched in
>>> like a beachball, too.
>>
>> But, remove " affirmative action ", and employers would
be free to use
>> the *right kinds of people as guards*. There'd be none of this nonsense
>> of " small women can do what big and capable men do " crap.
>
> well, unfortunately, sometimes it takes a terrible tragedy to show how
> fucked up certain politically correct situations are.

My point. Thank you.

>>> all said and done, if i'm sick and in the hospital, i'd rather have a
>>> female nurse, than a male one.
>>
>> Well then, you're a sexist.
>
> Heh. You, calling someone else a sexist. Thats a treat.

Enjoy it's unrefuted by you truth...

>>> maybe thats some kinda psychological problem on my part,
>>
>> No " maybe " about it...
>>
>>> but hey, there it is.
>>
>> OK: You're *biased* against some men. Got it.
>
> You really have some issues Andre.



> Go ahead, get the last word in; I know you cant stand it.

As Mark S would say " you fight like a girl ". But, thats not
my problem, oh unable to do anything but name caller...

Andre

--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
                                    The Man Prayer, Red Green.


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