Turin wrote:
> Deborah Terreson wrote:
> > Turin wrote:
> > > Jesus Christ.  It's the neighborhood retards - out on another
date.
> > >
> > >
> > > As usual, it's the board whore and our resident male
> > > protection-order-writing traitor having a serious sweaty palms
> moment,
> > > while they engage in media-watch stereotyping.
> > >
> > > Look at those lack-luster expressions as they trade those
> platonics!
> > >
> > > Listen those half-hearted protesting rationalizations about the
> system
> > > that they collaborate in!
> > >
> > >
> > > They're making time, they are, here on soc.men.
> > > Another greasy, dago night in Little Italy.....
> > > ...dowwwnn, stomach.
> > >
> > >
> > > Today, our sitcom personalities are talking about gas.
> > >
> > > I'll bet that's because whenever Debwhorah gets humped, the
unlucky
> > > victim gets to hear some escape.  But, maybe it's also due to the
> > > source of Grizzlie Asscrater's cookie-cut opinions.
> > >
> > > Whatever the source, you can bet it all centers between a
strawman
> > > "left" and a strawman "right".  We shall
narrowly escape a
> "Marxist"
> > > Armageddon, because it was never there to begin with.
> > >
> > > They'll nervously peck while saying goodbye for the night and
then
> log
> > > off.  Debwhorah will hand Bob the jar of his balls for the night,
> and
> > > Adjective will lick his own while doing more of women's dirty
work
> for
> > > them - probably take home work for his home computer.
> > >
> > > Tomorrow, they'll be back to con society some more by acting out
> more
> > > of the same stereotypes:
> > >
> > > "Oh!" 
"I lean left!"
> > > "Aah!   I
lean right!"
> > >
> > >
> > > ....Where would society's dysfunctionals be, by now, without
their
> role
> > > playing?
> >
> >
> > ..and let me guess, you get the starring role as the irate
> neighborhood
> > crank?
> >
> > "Bah!"  "You all suck!"
>
>
>
> Hahahaha, ...me, the "irate crank", when she's got constipated
> "Antagonist" over there, doing the tired old "hard
bitten" routine
all
> the time.  The cover of all closet feminists...
>
>
> Yeah.  It's amazing how the role playing "solution" twists things
> around.
>
> For instance, the weaklings (like Thomas Shit and Greasy Asswipe),
who
> insist that they are "sexists" do all of the emotion based arguing in
> their encounters with these women.
>
> Meanwhile, the butches (like Debwhorah and Hyerdahl), who demand the
> right to retain their "femininity" (ie. not having equal
> responsibilities to go with their equal rights), go a hell of a lot
> further in the way of making fact based arguments.
>
> So, what we wind up with, there, is emotional screaming from the
> pretended stubborn traditionalists, and cold logic emanating from the
> part-time careerists and housewife feminists.

You're off topic Turin and just spewing feminized hysteria.  My posts
to feminists are meant to deflect them and not reason with them.

As to the topic.  Most media folks are feminist first and liberal or
conservative second.  Limbaugh said this morning that feminism is a
"branch" of liberalism.  He knows better than that but he won't tell
the truth because the Right is running the country using feminism as a
counter insurgency and the Left's feminists won't give up the gravy
train as the Right's running dogs.  As long as we all buy into this
delusion that liberalism and conservatism still exist as the did in the
past while ignoring the real ruling ideology of feminism, we will
continue to chase our tails.

Turin, I resent you calling my friend GA "Greasy Asswipe".

Yo Deb, I love Modest Mouse!!  I discovered them on XM Sattellite
radio, which was ripped off recently, and bought all their CD's.   I'm
having legal problems again.  After a thirty year hiatus, the storm
troopers busted me.  Turin, stop gloating joyously.  Have alittle
mercy.

Tom

> And, they all pretend it's just the opposite.
> Perfect system for the Debs, Carols, Jaynes, Heidis, and Sues out
> there.....
>
>
> (Yo, Deb.  I'm guessing that another "topless piccy" is probably due
> for you about this time...)
>
>
>
> > > - - -
> > >
> > > The face of an angel, the charm of the devil ...the power of a
god:
> > >
> > > Turin
> > >
> > >
> > > I have such sites to show you...
> > > ------------------------
> > > http://members.fortunecity.com/turinturambar/
> > > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Men_First/
> > > ------------------------
> > >
> > > "He who changeth, altereth, misconstrueth, argueth with,
deleteth,
> or
> > > maketh a lie about these words or causeth them to not be known
> shall
> > > burn in hell forever and ever...."
> > >
> > > -----
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Giggling Gayrod wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:57:58 -0500, "Debwhorah
Terrorist"
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >In article
 ,
Gritty
> > > > >Anallube   wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:36:13 -0600, USAsshole

> > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:11:35 -0600,
"HombreVIII"
> 
> > > > >>>wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> wrote in message
> > > >
>>>>news:l1cb419i6fr0eh7b8oufeu55btepsu0q9t{at}4ax.com...
> > > > >>>>> All media is left leaning
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>Which explains why the terms
"monopoly" and
> "anti-competitive"
> > > haven't been
> > > > >>>>uttered in a sentence together on
television in decades.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>Hint: The media telling us how
extremely left wing it is
and
> that
> > > as
> > > > >>>>reasonable people we should always hold
a view more right
> wing
> > > than whatever
> > > > >>>>it says does not make it true.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>http://www.bartcop.com/libmedia.htm
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>What a lame site.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>Other favorite liberal arguments go something like:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>"GE is a huge evil corporation and it
owns NBC so obviously
> > > > >>>conservatives (the big corporation) are in
control of the
> media."
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>If that were true there would be no fag shows or fag
anything
> on
> > > Bravo
> > > > >>>(a cable channel owned and run by NBC). But
there are plenty
> of
> > > such
> > > > >>>trashy crap shows in evidence.  For
example, ever hear of
> "Queer
> > > Eye
> > > > >>>for the Straight Guy"?  Or how about
the NBC show "Will and
> > > Grace"?
> > > > >>>These days a homo is inserted into every TV
show almost as
if
> > > every
> > > > >>>family has one of their own which is far
from accurate.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>If conservatives were doing the hands on
running of either
the
> > > > >>>entertainment or news departments of the
alphabet networks
and
> > > their
> > > > >>>cable clones, you wouldn't hear the words
gay, lesbian, or
> > > homosexual
> > > > >>>and you certainly wouldn't see any.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>Why does GE let liberals run NBC news and
entertainment
> divisions?
> > > > >>>Because they are still making big money. 
When that ceases
to
> be
> > > true
> > > > >>>we might see a change.  In light of what
happened with idiot
> Dan
> > > > >>>Rather, it seems Viacom is starting to pay
attention to how
> costly
> > > CBS
> > > > >>>News is to run because it has virtually no
ratings.  Even so
> they
> > > > >>>won't become a conservative run news
division but rather CBS
> News
> > > will
> > > > >>>probably pretty much cease to exist. 
Hopefully NBC and ABC
> will
> > > > >>>follow shortly there after.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> People get mixed up when they operate from the
paradigm that
> "Big
> > > > >> Business" = conservative or conservatism.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Big Business is NOT conservative.  As an
institution, it may
> not
> > > be
> > > > >> particularly liberal either, but Big Business is NOT
> conservative.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Some libertarian/free market types will use conservative
> arguments
> > > to
> > > > >> justify the actions of Big Business, and the
Big Businessmen
> > > > >> themselves might ape those arguments when they
feel it is in
> their
> > > > >> best interest to do so, but that's not the same thing as
> saying
> > > that
> > > > >> Big Business = conservative.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Anyone who thinks that Big Business =
conservative needs to
> > > channel
> > > > >> Russell Kirk and ask him about that - because the First
> > > Conservative
> > > > >> of the 20th century must turn over in his
grave every time
> someone
> > > > >> identifies conservatism with "Big Business".
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Big Business is all about what will maximize
stock prices,
> market
> > > > >> share, and the compensation received by the
CEO's who run
it.
> > > It's
> > > > >> not about ideology at all.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So, for example, if drilling in the Arctic (I
favor that by
> the
> > > way,
> > > > >> I'm fed up with high prices at the gas pump)
> > > > >
> > > > >You can thank major retirement plan investment dollars going
> into
> > > the
> > > > >commodities markets for this one. A finite resource being
sought
> > > after by a
> > > > >larger amount of dollars is of course going to
raise the roof.
> > > Started about
> > > > >6 years ago, and they're only getting worse. I read (and I'll
> see if
> > > I can
> > > > >find an online copy) a report on the oil commodities markets
in
> a
> > > paper a
> > > > >few weeks back. If the markets were not being flooded with
this
> > > money, we'd
> > > > >be looking at prices more along the lines of 35 to 40 dollars
a
> > > barrel.
> > > > >
> > > > >Isn't it nice to know that you are subsidizing retirees every
> time
> > > you pull
> > > > >up to the pump?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My folks are retirees so it could be worse.
> > > >
> > > > Though I did have to chuckle at a National Review magazine
cover
> (I
> > > > think it was NR) that I saw a few weeks ago showing a cartoon
in
> > > which
> > > > an aging boomer eats gruel while portraits of his wealthy
parents
> > > > (living longer thanks to medical advances and collecting more
> > > > benefits) look on indulgently.
> > > >
> > > > I'm doing a little better than eating gruel :) but that cartoon
> did
> > > > hit home somewhat.  Although I chuckled at it, it hit home a
> little
> > > > TOO hard to induce me to buy the magazine and read the feature
> > > > article.
> > > >
> > > > Still, my folks went through the depression and WW2 and brought
> me up
> > > > so maybe they are deserving of some financial support at my
> expense.
> > > > I've always wanted them to live long and spend my inheritance.
I
> > > > always wanted to make it on my own.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Wonderful value system, there. Why bother with retirement
> savings,
> > > when you
> > > > >can get a private system to form itself into a neo-socialist
> > > redistribution
> > > > >scheme where the consumer supports you! This is better than
> anything
> > > a
> > > > >government could do - it's a 'free' market system!
> > > > >
> > > > >Marx was a dilettante, that's for sure.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You might also have described the reason why real estate prices
> are
> > > > skyrocketing.  At least in my part of the country.  Real estate
> > > > investment trusts are also frequently used as retirement
> vehicles.
> > > >
> > > > So land is also a scarce commodity pursued by large amounts of
> > > retiree
> > > > dollars.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >>  will maximize all of
> > > > >> those things, and if drilling in the Arctic is
regarded as
> > > > >> "conservative", then Big Oil appears
to be "conservative"
> given
> > > the
> > > > >> requirements of the moment.
> > > > >
> > > > >My thoughts on the ANWR reserves is to leave it: It's not
going
> > > anywhere,
> > > > >and if it's never disturbed, it will only increase in value
> relative
> > > to the
> > > > >miles per gallon that can be utilized from it. There is also
the
> > > point that
> > > > >at some time in the future, the cost of oil may go so high,
> given
> > > China's
> > > > >demands on the markets (they are only going to buy our debt
for
> so
> > > long, and
> > > > >when they decide it's time to use their yuan for
oil purchases
> > > instead,
> > > > >we're screwed), that it may have the ability to impact the
> > > military's cost
> > > > >in buying the fuel it may require. At what point
does a bit of
> > > foresight go
> > > > >into looking at what the markets can do and how it may affect

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