(DoubleBourbon{at}gmail.com) writes:
> Andre Lieven wrote:
>> "bluesmama" (onebluesmama{at}gmail.com) writes:
>> > Andre Lieven wrote:
>> >
>> >> > "bluesmama" 
wrote in message
>> >
>> >> >> If one of my daughters participated in something
like this, I'd
>> >> >> be horrified. Hate and disrespect is just wrong.
>> >>
>> >> Please post proof of your complaints being sent to these purveyors
>> >> of misandry, then...
>> >
>> > Sorry, I'm afraid that request will have to be denied.
>>
>> Of course, due to the fictional nature of those " complaints "...
>
> You're the one who began the fiction. I made no claim about making
> complaints, you started that.

Wrong: "... I'd be horrified. " Your words, toots. Thus, your claim.

I only busted you on it.

>> > No proof of my
>> > complaints being sent to these purveyors of misandry need be posted
> -
>>
>> No belief in your claim need be posted, then...
>
> Certainly not from you, but that's neither here nor there.

 Well, if all you can do is post irrelevancies...

Your bad.

>> > how I choose to combat the problem is in a more direct way, and
> that's
>> > how I interact with my husband and how I raise my children. This
> will
>> > have more effect than all the letters of protest I could fire off.
> You
>> > go ahead and do that, if it makes you feel like you're having some
>> > effect.
>>
>> " No man is an island. "
>>
>> Only fools ignore that life truth. So, thanks for showing that you
>> don't *care* about anyone outside of your family.
>
> "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." Mahatma Gandhi

Yet, he went out and protested in *public*...

> "Consider how hard it is to change yourself and you'll understand what
> little chance you have in trying to change others." Author Unknown

Kinda hard to test what " Unknown " did.

> "It is not the mountain we conquer but ourselves."  Edmund Hillary

Yet, he too, *did something*.

> Seeing as how you're so fond of quotes and all. And bear in whatever
> bit of open mind you have left that there are different ways of doing
> things; not everyone is meant to scale buildings in the fight for
> justice. It's just one way of getting your message out.

And, people who only do that, are displaying their own narcissism.

" Do, or do not. There is no try. " Yoda. 

>> >> >> And then, at the bottom of the University of New Hampshire
> website was
>> >> >> this charming little link:
http://www.puppyordog.com/ which was
>> > quite
>> >> >> illuminating, especially the
"Training" section. Let me just
>> > say that
>> >> >> not all women - or all feminists - think this
way. Some of us
>> >> >> find it disgusting.
>> >>
>> >> No proof offered ? Claim fails.
>> >
>> > Failing to prove something to you is not a concern of mine.
>>
>> Not believing you is not a concern of mine.
>
> Yet you continue to ask for proof. Methinks the gentleman doth protest
> too much.

Naw, I'm just amused by your continued inability to offer any...

>> But, as Feminists are known purveyors of lies, your claim deso need
>> to come with proof, else, informed people will take them to be the
>> Feminist lies that they are...
>
> Sloganeering again. How very unexpected.

Tough. Its called Free Speech. Suck on it.

>> >> " The plural of 'anecdote' is NOT 'citation. "
Your personal
>> >> claimed views are in NO way proof of the views of ANY Feminist
>> >> Their own misandrous utterings are the proof of their misandry.
>> >
>> > The plural of anecdote isn't citation? Holy shit, Andre, I wish you
>> > would have told me this a long time ago!
>> >
>> > Oh wait. You did. Repeatedly.
>> >
>> > Yet I continue to post anecdotes. Goddamn stubborn woman.
>>
>> Indeed. One displaying a flat line learning curve... How brain
>> rot-dead of you...
>
> And how adhominem-ish of you.

Wrong. As usual. I addressed your *behavior*.

>> > Now quit nagging me and go write some letters.
>>
>> LOL. I'll post here as I please, and your whines will have...
>> no effect. 
>
> Sigh.

Wind.

>> >> I'll remind you of those, at the end of this post, toots.
>> >
>> > Oh yes, I'm sure you will. It's what you do in place of offering
>> > anything new or worth commenting on. Some women hate men.
>>
>> Once again, you make the MS-take os confusing " women " with
>> " Feminists ". Once again, that flat line learning curve of yours
>> displays itself...
>
> No, it's you who confuse women with feminists and feminists with evil.

 and wrong. Oh, no proof offered ? Claims fail, too.

> But then again, you seem to be living in some kind of two-dimensional
> cartoon-like world, so I'll leave you to your simplistic view of the
> world.



>> No, Feminists hate men. Feminist ideology and demands are expressions
>> of that hate of men and masculinity. When you *refuse* to speak
>> against it, you ARE a part of the problem, and only display your
>> own hate of men.
>
> Some feminists hate men.

All.

> Many, even.

All.

> Some women who are not feminists hate men.

The ones who are Feminists, absolutely.

> You may even know some - in fact, I'm sure you do. Some
> women, and some feminists,

Wrong. See above.

> don't hate men at all. But again, we're
> getting into complexity here, and you're not entirely comfortable
> there.

No proof offered ? Claim fails.

>> > What a
>> > stunning development in the battle of the sexes. Kudos to you for
>> > scooping everyone else.
>>
>> Non sequitur. I never claimed any such thing. So, once again, you
>> display your Feminist lying by inventing things that the other
>> person never said or implied.
>
> Once again you demonstrate the wonder and mystery that is you.

No refutation to my point ? Point stands. Thank you. 

>> Thanks for showing, once again, that you are a LYING, man hating
>> Feminist. As such, your protestations of the " wrongness " of hate
>> and disrespect, are proven to be just... more of your Feminist lies.
>
> Are you finished nagging

From the Feminist Handbook: " nagging, what only women are allowed
to do. ".

Feh.

> yet?

Nope. Deal with it.

> Good Lord, you could be someone's mother-in-law.

Naw, I'll leave that to you. As my soon to be MIL is a nice lady,
I wouldn't agree with suggestions that she's a nag. Perhaps yours
is, perhaps you are, but, in either case, I just... don't care.

Andre



--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
                                    The Man Prayer, Red Green.


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