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   The $699 price that is listed is without CPU, memory, disk, software, =
etc.  It's not a computer.  It's a case and motherboard.

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message
news:3e2112a4{at}w3.nls.net...
  Oh, I didn't realize you were doing that sort of comparison. I just =
picked
  the first low price I saw on the net to show Adam that they were =
quickly
  approaching his $500 sensitivity mark.

  Geo.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e20bc54{at}w3.nls.net...
     Or Celeron.  I compared one that was configured as closely as =
possible to
  one of Dell's cheapest.  I picked a 1.7 GHz P4 configuration because =
Dell
  didn't have a 1.7GHz Celeron system.  I couldn't figure the Dell as =
low as
  the other because of things like no battery and cheap video.  Even so, =
the
  Dell was $100 cheaper.

  Rich

    "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:3e20b8c3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    they are also P4

    Geo.

    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e20b51d{at}w3.nls.net...
       These are expensive, especially for laptops without batteries.

    Rich

      "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:3e2082d8$3{at}w3.nls.net...
      http://www.americancomputech.com/smoreinfo.asp?iid=3D1265

      Geo.

      "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
      news:3e20545e{at}w3.nls.net...
      >
      > "Geo."  wrote in message
  news:3e20535e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      > > "Adam Flinton" 
wrote in message
      > > news:3e1ffd3f$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      > >
      > > > I think the security of the US will just end up in foreign =
hands
    (EU,
      > > > Russia, India, China) where security will stay an =
interesting &
  non
      > > criminal
      > > > line of enquiry. The Russians for instance take the stance =
that
    having
      > > > skillfull patriotic Russian crackers is a national security =
asset.
      > >
      > > I don't think so, the spooks here have been hiring hackers and
    security
      > > types lately, the ones they can't hire they are trying to =
bribe via
      > special
      > > treatment, access to important stuff, etc. I think they =
realize the
      value.
      > >
      >
      > Hiring & yet....restricting at the same time. If people don't =
feel
  safe
    to
      > even start looking at security measures then they won't.
      >
      > > > > laptop sales will outpace desktop sales for the
first time =
in
      history.
      > > > (ok,
      > > > > maybe 2004)
      > > > >
      > > >
      > > > Cough splutter....welcome to the dark side
Geo......& shell =
will
    start
      > > using
      > > > clustered psx3'es for oil exploration 
      > >
      > > Wireless is the motivating factor that will drive laptop =
sales. It
  may
      > take
      > > a while for people to realize that a $500 PDA just doesn't =
fill the
    same
      > gap
      > > as a real computer but it will happen.
      > >
      >
      > Wait for Laptops to come down to USD500.
      >
      > Adam
      >
      >




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listed is=20
without CPU, memory, disk, software, etc.  It's not a =
computer.  It's=20
a case and motherboard.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:3e2112a4{at}w3.nls.net...Oh=
, I=20
  didn't realize you were doing that sort of comparison. I just =
pickedthe=20
  first low price I saw on the net to show Adam that they were=20
  quicklyapproaching his $500 sensitivity =
mark.Geo."Rich"=20
  <{at}> wrote in message news:3e20bc54{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p; =20
  Or Celeron.  I compared one that was configured as closely as =
possible=20
  toone of Dell's cheapest.  I picked a 1.7 GHz P4 =
configuration=20
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figure=20
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cheap=20
  video.  Even so, theDell was $100 =
cheaper.Rich =20
  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
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  they are also P4 
Geo.  "Rich" <{at}> =
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p;   =20
  These are expensive, especially for laptops without =
batteries. =20
  Rich    "Geo."
<georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
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"Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
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  > > "Adam Flinton" <adam{at}NOSPAMsoftfab.com>">mailto:adam{at}NOSPAMsoftfab.com">adam{at}NOSPAMsoftfab.com>
=
wrote in=20
  message    > > news:3e1ffd3f$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
   =20
  > >    >
> > I think the security of =
the US=20
  will just end up in foreign hands 
(EU,    =
>=20
  > > Russia, India, China) where security will stay an =
interesting=20
  &non    > > =
criminal   =20
  > > > line of enquiry. The Russians for instance take the =
stance=20
  that  having   
> > > skillfull =
patriotic=20
  Russian crackers is a national security
asset.    =
>=20
  >    > > I
don't think so, the spooks here =
have=20
  been hiring hackers and 
security    > =
>=20
  types lately, the ones they can't hire they are trying to bribe=20
  via    >
special    > > =

  treatment, access to important stuff, etc. I think they realize=20
  the   
value.    >=20
  >   
>    > Hiring =
&=20
  yet....restricting at the same time. If people don't =
feelsafe =20
  to    > even start looking at
security measures =
then=20
  they won't.   
>    > > =
>=20
  > laptop sales will outpace desktop sales for the first time=20
  in   
history.    > > >
=

  (ok,    > > >
> maybe=20
  2004)    > > >
>    =
>=20
  > >    >
> > Cough =
splutter....welcome to=20
  the dark side Geo......& shell will  =
start   =20
  > > using    >
> > clustered psx3'es =
for oil=20
  exploration <G>    > =
>   =20
  > > Wireless is the motivating factor that will drive laptop =
sales.=20
  Itmay    >
take    > =
> a=20
  while for people to realize that a $500 PDA just doesn't fill =
the =20
  same    >
gap    > > as =
a real=20
  computer but it will happen.    >=20
  >   
>    > Wait for =
Laptops to=20
  come down to USD500.   
>    =
>=20
  Adam   
>   =20
>

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