BA> JB>>> Why is nobody calling for The Shrew to be held accountable for
BA> JB>>> the State  Department leaks to the Wiki site ?  If this were a
BA> JB>>> Republican they  would be calling for a complete investigation
BA> JB>>> of the State Department.   Why isn't Hillary being held
BA> JB>>> accountable, unless this is more of the  Obama Administration
BA> JB>>> attempting to discredit the US and her allies.

BA> BA>> I'm not sure the leak was in DOS.  Some Army guy was nailed
BA> BA>> some time back for making unauthorized copies of thousands of
BA> BA>> classified documents and giving copies of the CD to the media.
BA> BA>> Not sure but this may be the source for most of Wiki's
BA> BA>> material.

BA> JB> I doubt it.  The Army typically doesn't have access to this wide
BA> JB> variety  of information unless they are assigned to the State
BA> JB> Department or  similar.  If this was all about the war and such,
BA> JB> then I might agree.

BA>I just re-read an article about it.  The fellow was an Army PFC
BA>analyst of some sort and is believed to have downloaded - without
BA>permission - 150,000 classified documents and released them to people
BA>'not authorized to receive them.'
BA>He also is believed to be the source of a video of a US Army
BA>helicopter attack on
BA>what turned out to be civilians, including a Reuters reporter and his
BA>driver.

BA>According to the story investigators were going through every
BA>computer the guy had access to to try to trace where he sent the
BA>stuff he swiped.  As of the date
BA>on the story, which was this past summer IIRC, they hadn't actually
BA>linked him to WikiLeaks.  But they did say that many if not of the
BA>documents were diplomatic
BA>in nature (why they were even accessible on a military network was
BA>not explained)..

BA>Back when I handled classified material = and I handled a LOT of it
BA>over a period just
BA>shy of 20 years (evern wrote some of it) - your access to material
BA>was limited by your
BA>need to know it.  If you didn't need it you just didn't get access to
BA>it, period.

It was the same way when I was in.  An Army PFC would have never had 
access to this much to type of classified materials.


BA> BA>> She shure has been flapping her jaw about it the last couple of
BA> BA>> days. Any press coverage is good coverage to people like her, I
BA> BA>> guess.

BA> BA>> I note that the US government apparnently engaged in cyber
BA> BA>> attacks against the Wiki site to try to shut it down.  I would
BA> BA>> not be a bit surprised if the US government kidnapped the
BA> BA>> people running Wiki and brought them here for trial.

BA> JB> That could happen but we need to go after the source.  Someone
BA> JB> or some  group within the government had to leak the documents.


BA> BA>> People - particularly government officials and their supporters
BA> BA>> - can't seem to understand that US law is without force or
BA> BA>> effect outside of the US.  That's why I have major problems
BA> BA>> with the conduct of this government WRT Manuel Noriega and
BA> BA>> Saddam Hussein.  Neither of them was a sterling example of
BA> BA>> humanity, but neither of them had ever set foot in this
BA> BA>> country, either.  The US government conquered Panama and then
BA> BA>> dragged Noriega from his country to this one in order to put
BA> BA>> him on 'trial.'  The same is true of all those people at
BA> BA>> Guantanamo, the US government has no legitimate power to
BA> BA>> enforce its laws outside of its borders - the fact that it can
BA> BA>> and does is one reason the US is as unpopular as it is in parts
BA> BA>> of the rest of the world.  Might does not necessarily make 
right.

BA> JB> Agreed but there is enough within our jurisdiction to go after.

BA>That's certainly true.  BTW, IMO that army PFC shouldn't see the
BA>outside of a military prison for a very long time.



Jeff

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