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>> This is probably true, but if the Progenitors did do what is assumed tha=
t=20
> they did and what the Ksassans believe they did, then they accept that ot=
her
> humanoid species might be receptive to their pheromones.

>Can you rephrase this for me?  I am looking for sentences with one subject=
,
object and verb apiece, please.

Tnis is a perfectly good English sentence, and I understand it fully, but I=
 can break it up a bit more.

This is probably true.  Because the Ksassans generally believe that the
Pro= genitors did in
fact seed the galaxy with humanoid life and that they are the direct
descen= dants of the
Progenitors, then they can see why other humanoids respond to their pheromo= nes, but
they do not respond to the pheromones of other humanoids.

That's still not a sentence with one subject, one verb and one object,
thou= gh.  I doubt I can
write that simply.  I can write some pretty convoluted sentences, but the
o= ne above is
crystal clear and completely unambiguous in my mind.

Joe can have his so-called flowerly phrases like "strike without
let" (actu= ally, Mantovanni's rules
of engagement are nicely concise and said), I'll stick with the
compound-co= mplex-compound
sentences with big, long noun clauses.  I just love that.  This has to be
t= he linguist in me
thinking.  I know it's a well-formed, easily-understoond sentence since I
c= an readily translate
it into Odonien without having to decipher it.

>It is just as unreasonable to assume that Ksassin would be cross fertile w=
ith
other humanoid races, *unless there hes been deliberate adjustment of one s= ide
or the other.*

I think that I might have to look further into pheromones and how such
thin= gs work.  In terms of
interspecies breeding, one has to assume that genes in each species has to
= line up, and somehow,
body features found in one species and not in the other have to be
accounte= d for in the species
without it.  Just consider human iron-based blood and Vulcan copper-based
b= lood, so for interspecies
breeding, humans must have genes that code for copper-based blood located
o= n the same part of
the genome where the correpsonding gene in the Vulcan genome is located,
ev= en though the
human copper-blood-gene has never been used.  This is not likely.  The
reac= tion to alien
pheromones might be different since pheromones are not genes and not as
com= plicated as that.
True, the receiving individual has to have receptors, but they could have a=
 variety of receptors for
various pheromones or pheromone-like chemicals and the Ksassan pheromones m= ight be
suitable for one of them.  It is possible that if the Progenitors do work
a= nd the Preservers continue
to work, that Ksassans might have had adjustments made, and so did other
hu= manoid species.
We've seen such genetic tricks already in the message that Galen decoded,
s= o it is possible.

It is also possible that "pheromones" is the wrong word to use,
and it coul= d be some other kind
of chemical "signature."

>Fact -  the Ksassin pheromones do work on most people (We've seen it in At=
hena
Stories)  this cannot be debated, there it is.

>So the question is "why?"

Perhaps for the same reason that a ship can go faster than light, because I=
 decide it to be so.
Maybe the Ksassans are, in fact, the direct descendants of the Progenitors,=
 or perhaps a specially
seeded race with a role to play.  Who knows what I can come up with.

>> On the other hand, perhaps Ksassan pheromones are not that complex.

>If this were possible why haven't fluffy bunnies already developed this?

I don't get this question.

Steve
The Universe Unbounded.

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>> This is probably true, but if the Progenitors
did do what is
assumed that > they did and what the Ksassans believe they
did, then they
accept that other> humanoid species might be receptive to
their pheromones.>Can you rephrase this for
me?  I am looking for sentences with one subject,object
and verb apiece, please.
 
Tnis is a perfectly good English
sentence, and I
understand it fully, but I can break it up a bit more.
 
This is probably true. 
Because the Ksassans
generally believe that the Progenitors did in
fact seed the galaxy with humanoid
life and that
they are the direct descendants of the
Progenitors, then they can see why
other humanoids
respond to their pheromones, but
they do not respond to the
pheromones of other
humanoids.
 
That's still not a sentence with
one subject, one
verb and one object, though.  I doubt I can
write that simply.  I can
write some pretty
convoluted sentences, but the one above is
crystal clear and completely
unambiguous in my
mind.
 
Joe can have his so-called
flowerly phrases like
"strike without let" (actually, Mantovanni's rules
of engagement are nicely concise
and said), I'll
stick with the compound-complex-compound
sentences with big, long noun
clauses.  I
just
love that.  This has to be the linguist in me
thinking.  I know it's a
well-formed,
easily-understoond sentence since I can readily translate
it into Odonien without having to decipher
it.
 
>It is just as unreasonable to assume that Ksassin would be cross
fertile withother humanoid races, *unless there hes been
deliberate adjustment of one sideor the other.*
 
I think that I might have to look
further into
pheromones and how such things work.  In terms of
interspecies breeding, one has to
assume that
genes
in each species has to line up, and somehow,
body features found in one species
and not in the
other have to be accounted for in the species
without it.  Just
consider human iron-based
blood and Vulcan copper-based blood, so for interspecies
breeding, humans must have genes
that code for
copper-based blood located on the same part of
the genome where the correpsonding
gene in the
Vulcan genome is located, even though the
human copper-blood-gene has never
been used. 
This is not likely.  The reaction to alien
pheromones might be different
since pheromones are
not genes and not as complicated as that.
True, the receiving individual has to have
receptors, but they could have a variety of receptors for
various pheromones or
pheromone-like chemicals and
the Ksassan pheromones might be
suitable for one of
them.  It is possible
that
if the Progenitors do work and the Preservers continue
to work, that Ksassans might have
had adjustments
made, and so did other humanoid species.
We've seen such genetic tricks
already in the
message that Galen decoded, so it is possible.
 
It is also possible that
"pheromones" is the wrong
word to use, and it could be some other kind
of chemical
"signature."
 
>Fact -  the Ksassin pheromones do work on most
people (We've seen
it in AthenaStories)  this cannot be debated, there it
is.>So the question is
"why?"Perhaps
for the same reason that a ship can go faster than light, because I decide
it to
be so.
Maybe the Ksassans are, in fact, the direct
descendants of the Progenitors, or perhaps a specially
seeded race with a role to
play.  Who knows
what I can come up with.
>> On the other hand, perhaps Ksassan
pheromones are not that
complex.
>If this were possible why haven't fluffy bunnies already developed
this?
 
I don't get this
question.
 
Steve
The Universe
Unbounded.
 
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