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MM> Here is a useful quote from soneone I know:
MM> "Something that I noticed. Four periods in the 20th century
MM> where we had the best economic growth. The Coolidge years,
MM> the Eisenhower years, the Reagan years and the Clinton
MM> years. What was not happening during those years? The
Well, sorry to have to tell you this, but your someone you know,
or someone he knows, doesn't know.
I pulled up the GDP rates for post WWII from the Fed's site, and
the pre-WWII and WWII stats for GNP from the "Historical
Statistics of the United States From Colonial Times to 1970"
which I have in hard cover and as a file from the Census Bureau
Stat Ab division.
All these numbers are inflation adjusted. I used GNP for
pre-WWII because that's how they are listed.
Reagan and Eisenhower and Clinton were all pretty mediocre. I
find a single term growth of anywhere around 15% is normal, or
about 30% for two terms. I also used the end of the year for the
succeeding president as the previous president's final year, and
the new president's inherited stat. I did that on the theory
that it takes a new president a year to get his policies in
effect.
If anyone would prefer to do it from taking office to leaving
office, that's ok, it makes Reagan look worse and Clinton look
better.
So, the real winners? Coolidge did do very well, about 40%
better than normal. However, the real champion is FDR. His
growth was about double that of Coolidge. That's his pre-WWII
growth. In WWII it was also quite good. For single term growth
the next rung of championship goes to Truman and JFK/LBJ.
Counting JFK/LBJ as one since JFK died in his first term.
What you may not know is, Coolidge took office after a serious
recession. Do you see a trend here? Ok, I'll explain. It seems
the key to having an outstanding growth is to follow a president
whose growth was really bad, or, better yet, negative.
Coolidge had a recovery from the post WWI recession, which was
quite serious. FDR had the recovery from the Great Depression,
which, while long, was also a huge jump in GNP. Going from
pre-depression, to full depression, back to pre-depression gave
FDR an 86% growth in the economy. That is truly spectactular, in
sheer numbers.
MM> country wasn't really at war during most of the time.
MM> Coolidge and Reagan kept us out of war (sorry by 7 days in
MM> Grenada doesn't really count). Eisenhower's second term was
MM> a time between the Korean and Vietnam wars. Clinton took us
MM> to the Balkans but it wasn't a large invasion or occupation.
And Truman beat Eisenhower and Reagan and Clinton for a single
term, as did JFK/LBJ for the first term. Overall JFK/LBJ for two
terms also beat Eisenhower and Reagan and Clinton.
They did it while fighting significant wars also. So, it seems
war or peace is not the dividing factor, recovery from a bad
economy is.
MM> During those peacetimes the economy expanded greatly. Even
No, they really didn't.
MM> in the case of Coolidge and Reagan who inherited weak
MM> economies.
Coolidge did, Reagan really didn't. Oh, and Reagan's first term
was his worst, because Reagan was not very successful in
reducing unemployment in his first term.
MM> War definitely sucks the life out of economies
MM> and doesn't make recovery easier." -Aaron Alghawi
And that guy considers himself a student of economics? No, it
isn't war that does it, at least not short term, it's economic
inequality and financial speculation.
BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn
... "all the world's economists, laid end-to-end, could not reach a
conclusion"
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