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echo: public_domain
to: Frank Malcolm
from: Paul Edwards
date: 1995-01-02 23:33:52
subject: pqwk problem

PE> PE>>> PQWK222 fixes the problem with people leaving
"To:" out of their
 PE> PE>>> netmail, so please switch to it.  And if you can reproduce the

 PE> FM>> OK, then it's relatively minor and I can do that at my
convenience.

 PE>> NO IT IS NOT MINOR AND I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU UPGRADED TO IT
 PE>> *STRAIGHT AWAY* NOT AT YOUR CONVENIENCE SEEING AS IT IS A DROP IN
 PE>> REPLACEMENT,

 FM> However, I take the same view of upgrades as it seems Rod does; I want
 FM> to make sure there are no problems, and that they work the same as
 FM> before (apart from whatever has been fixed or enhanced). As a one-time
 FM> professional programmer and maintenance team manager, I know all about
 FM> "minor" upgrades. The loss of Westpac's Handybank network
over Easter a
 FM> few years ago was following a minor software upgrade.

Yeah, the only problem with that theory is that Bob Lawrence,
Brenton Vettoretti and Dieter Mirbach have been conversing in
echomail and netmail for the last week or so using 2.22.  So
don't read any of their messages if you think there's a problem
with it.

 FM> AND YESTERDAY YOU SENT A MESSAGE TO BOB LAWRENCE

 PE>> WITHOUT PUTTING THE To: IN THERE AND IT WENT TO ZONE 5966.

 FM> Sorry, I'll send it again.

And the only reason I saw this was because I was looking for
your Areafix message.  Even if I do see a wayward netmail
message, I won't do anything about it, because I've already
spent plenty of time fixing up that problem, and if you can't
be bothered upgrading, I don't mind, you're the only one who's
going to suffer.

 PE>> AND TODAY YOU SENT A MESSAGE TO AREAFIX, AND IT WENT TO ZONE
 PE>> 5966 ALSO.  222 WOULD HAVE SENT IT BACK TO YOU, INSTEAD OF
 PE>> LETTING IT GO TO CYBERSPACE (I DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE
 PE>> MESSAGES GO).

 FM> But I don't want it to come back to me! Do I have to put a To:
 FM> 3:711/934.0 in there? SDUSRMAN.DOC doesn't say anything about that.

Of course you have to put a "To:" in there to send any netmail
when using QWK.  I'm surprised your brain-dead QWK readers
don't force you to put it in.  If you don't want it to come
back to you in 222 then stick a "To:" in there.  At least it
doesn't go to a random destination that way.  The random
destination might be 1:1/1 and your password gets transmitted
over the world.  And of course SDUSERMAN.DOC doesn't say
anything about it, it is a facet of stupid QWK netmail instead 
of using the proper PKT method in the first place which you would
get if you used any of the native formats around.  Keith, 
Anthony, me, Paul M, etc NEVER EVER have to worry about stupid
things like sticking in a "To:".

 PE>> Yeah, a separate archive for each problem thanks.

 FM> OK, the zero length seems easy to reproduce, I'll send that first.

I'm surprised you haven't sent me anything yet, but I'm not
complaining, I'm still trying to figure out this bloody
LINK386 problem.  Only one day of holidays left.  :-(
BFN.  Paul.
@EOT:

--- Mksmsg
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