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to: RICHARD HELM
from: WAYNE CHIRNSIDE
date: 2006-12-09 12:11:38
subject: COMMENT?

Separating hydrogen currently takes more energy 
than provided by that hydrogen separated unless
using fossil fuel methods
which solves nothing



-> On 4 Sep 10, WAYNE CHIRNSIDE wrote to MIMI GALLANDT:
-> on the subject: COMMENT? 
-> 
->  JB>>They already exist.  Capitalism has to make them practical and
->  JB>>affordable.  It is only a matter of time.
-> 
->  MG>> I'm familiar with the hybrid, which if I understand this
correctly,
->  MG>> uses half gas and half electric but still uses gas.
-> 
->  WC> Not only that but for the most part they simply use petrochemical 
->  WC> fuels burned at remote power plants to generate the electricity
that 
->  WC> propels them.
-> 
-> Those hybrids are using the gas engines on board to generate the
-> electricity.  In So Ca where Ms Gallandt lives most electric energy is
-> generated either at nuclear plants or hydro electric sites.
-> 
-> 
->  MG>> I'm familiar with
->  MG>> "natural gas" vehicles the vast majority of SD
Transit's busses
are
->  MG>> powered by that, but if I'm recalling what I head correctly
natural
-> gas
->  MG>> is found in pockets along with oil so that doesn't help either. OK
-> I
->  MG>> know this came from a fiction book but I read about an engine
powered
->  MG>> by hydrogen and I believe that hydrogen is the most common
substance
-> in
->  MG>> the universe, maybe separating hydrogen from other elements makes
it
->  MG>> cost prohibitive I don't know I'm hardly a scientist. :)
-> 
->  WC>  Uh, they're called *elements* because they are not further
divisable
->  WC> into constituent parts.
-> 
->  WC> Hydrogen is indeed the most plentiful element in the universe
however
->  WC> that does not make it economical as a fuel until such time
->  WC> a cost effective way is found to produce it.
-> 
-> You don't "produce" hygrogen.  You separate from other elements in
-> compounds.  Which is waht she said.
-> 
-> 
-> 
-> Richard 
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