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to: BOB KLAHN
from: WAYNE CHIRNSIDE
date: 2006-12-08 07:54:00
subject: Re: Whose Lying now?

-=> BOB KLAHN wrote to TIM RICHARDSON <=-

Tedium alert Bob.
Playing off of your post rather than address passive aggressive
obsessed TFM.

 BK> ...

 WC>> Uh, I''ve had them since the age of 18 approximately.

 TR> Weren't you the one who was telling us you also were
 TR> `subject to the draft' and had a draft classification of 1A?

 WC>> It never interferred with my ability to work which is perhaps
 WC>> why I'd previously not thought to mention it.

 TR> It would certaianly have interfered with your ability to be
 TR> drafted into the military.

 TR> So.........were you lying then, or are you lying now?

 TR> One of the questions to get a 1A draft card by the way
 TR> specifically asks if you have had seizures in the past, or
 TR> are subject to them.

 BK>  You say that as if he wanted to be drafted.

Why no-one think to ask the source?
1/2 of me wanted to go play at being John Wayne while
the other half asked himself why would I wish to go kill
a bunch of poverty stricken foreigners who had done nothing to me
or my country?

Then too there was a N-S reunification accord.

However drawing a high draft number I didn't face the decision
to chose between heading north to Canada or to the east to Vietnam. 


 TR> If it was determined that yes. you *had* suffered actual
 TR> seizures in the past and were still subject to them, you
 TR> were *not* eligible for the draft.

That would not have been the reason for my ineligability.
Allergic to atropine the specific counteragent for nerve poisons.
Severe respiratory problems.
Flat size 14 feet.

No idea if they would have passed me or not as the war was wound down
to the last year of the draft and they were not taking so many. 

 BK>  You signed up for the draft around the time of your 18th
 BK>  birthday. If you had never had a seizure before then you would
 BK>  answer no. If you started having seizures at age 18 1/2 you
 BK>  would then become 4F... *IF* they believed you. If you had one
 BK>  seizure every 6 months it might not be that easy to prove.

 Moot point as I myself aren't sure when I first had them.
 Somewhere between 18 and 22 for sure however had other 
 chronic health difficulties due to being born 2 months premature.    
 Other health difficulties may have masked.

 BK>  He said he started having seizures around age 18. So, he could
 BK>  well have been 1A. Probably was. They were not all that
 BK>  believing of those who claimed a disability.

Sometimes it seems I've spent my life in one form of physical
rehabilitation or another.
You would think Tim grateful he was not so unfortunate as I.

He does not appear to be grateful to me.

Why do you suppose that is Bob? ( rhetorical)

 TR> But.......you told us that you *were*. Which means that to
 TR> have been `eligible' you'd had to lie to the draft board
 TR> where you signed up.

 BK>  Lots of people have lied to a draft board to get into the army,
 BK>  even more have lied to try to stay out. What's your point. When
 BK>  someone shows up who lied about his age to get in during WW2
 BK>  it's considered a sign of patriotism. Are you saying you don't
 BK>  like patriotism? Are you saying trying to serve in Vietnam was
 BK>  not patriotic?

 TR> Or you are just plain lying to us right now. Either
 TR> way........you're a liar.

 BK>  Or, much more likely, you are the liar. You are guilty of
 BK>  bearing false witness. Enjoy it.

 TR> And thank *you* for proving to all of us once again that
 TR> you are in the same category of personal integrety as Otto
 TR> is.

 BK>  So, you are saying Ross Sauer is also falsely accused? Thank
 BK>  you for that admission. Now you see why I never believed what
 BK>  you said about Ross. You accuse without evidence on a subject
 BK>  you have no way of knowing the truth about.

 BK>  You lie.

 I for one have never seen sufficient evidence one way or
 the other to draw a rationally supportable conclusion 
 regarding Mr. Sauer.

 Lacking malice or reason to question Mr. Sauers account what could
 possibly motivate me to question his claims of military service?

  
 

 
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