Hyerdahl1 wrote:
> >Subject: Re: Women Are Everywhere!
> >From: viking noway{at}goodbye.com
> >Date: 12/16/2004 1:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: 
> >
> >On 16 Dec 2004 21:04:53 GMT, hyerdahl1{at}aol.com (Hyerdahl1) wrote:
> >
> >>Well, having women on men's teams tends to demand the same set of
skills as
> >>those of the team.  If she can't do the work, she won't remain on
the team.

Fine.

> >>OTOH, equity demands that women have sports teams and that they not
be
> >>destroyed by men who'd like to take over.  I don't see that the two
are

"Equity" demands no such thing, and men don't want to take over.
Freedom demands that a business owner, as in the owner of a soccer
team, be allowed to field an all-female team if he wants.  Freedom
demands that he be allowed to field a men's team if he wants.  Freedom
demands that he be allowed to field a mixed team if he wants, though
this is unlikely, because others are free not to play his team, and he
thus wouldn't turn a profit.

Far from wanting to take over, the men who have generously taken their
time to respond to your trite tripe are only illustrating the absurdity
of your claim.  We don't care if there are women's teams, as long as we
don't have to pay for their existence.  If they can turn a profit,
great.  We certainly have no basis for legally stopping a men's team
from fielding a woman, if that's what the team owner wants.  We can
only use out _freedom_ to _not_ buy tickets.

> >>exclusive, one to the other, or even connected.
> >
> >Well, that's because you're not thinking. If there was true
equality,

True equality is what the Bolsheviks sought, as well as the Cambodians,
Chinese, North Koreans, Laotians, and Cubans.  How did those societies
turn out?  As feminist utopias?  Our society sought _freedom_, and I
think it's safe to say that we turned out better than they, even for
feminists, inasmuch as anything can turn out well for one with a
feminist mindset.

> >gender wouldn't be an issue in sports, right?

It would have to be an issue, because the genders aren't equal in
sports, so someone would have to _make_ them equal by handicapping men
or forcing women on team owners.  If there was _freedom_, gender
wouldn't be an issue.

> "True equality" doesn't mean that women should have to BE men to BE
equal.

Useless, meaningless drivel.  This isn't even fit for use in a typing
class.

> True equality is about making sure everyone has an equal opportunity.


No, FREEDOM is about making sure that everyone has an equal
opportunity.  You do this by protecting their inalienable rights.  "To
secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving
their just power from the consent of the governed."  - The Declaration
of Independence

> And there would be no>men's, no women's teams, just teams. And no
women
> playing.
>
> Again, your desire to keep women from playing is duly noted, and
societally
> dismissed.  :-)

His desire was to expose you as a moron.  His dazzling success is duly
noted.
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