BK>>>> The problem is with your management, not Union contractors.

 TW>>> BS Bob. UNION workers overall are the poorest in
 TW>>> craftsmanship in the WORLD. You get Crappy Work at a Higher
 TW>>> Cost!!

 BK>>  On the contrary, you get better work from union workers. If
 BK>>  non-union workers are better why aren't you willing to pay them
 BK>>  more? That's all you have to do. That and treat them better. The
 BK>> only reason to hire non-union workers is to pay less and treat  them
 BK>> like slaves.

 BA> That depends on the situation.  Overall it costs
 BA> approximately 10% more to run a union shop than a non-union
 BA> shop when the pay scales for the help are *identical*.  It
 BA> therefore is worth it for management to pay the help up to
 BA> 10% above union scale and not have to deal with a union and
 BA> its various rules and demands.  Of course, in a mixed shop

 You mean like not firing a current worker to hire your buddy
 into the job?

 If pay scales are identical, then it may cost 10% more.
 Payscales are typically not identical.

 BA> management can't do that because by law they have to pay
 BA> workers in the same job with the same seniority at the same
 BA> rate - a union-sponsored law, BTW.  Of course, in that same
 BA> mixed shop if the union negotiates a pay hike or a raise in
 BA> benefits those same non-union workers get it too; unions
 BA> call that free-riding, I say it's their law, the unions got

 It is both, the law and free-riding.

 BA> it passed and they can get it repealed instead of trying to
 BA> extort money from non-members.  Of course, if the labor

 Non-members get paid more because of the union and you call dues
 extorting money from non-members?

 BA> unions get their law repealed then in fairly short order
 BA> employers will be paying their non-union help up to 10%
 BA> above union scale to keep them non-union.

 Union members make all the sacrifices and non-union workers reap
 the benefits.

 Now, do you really believe employers will pay as much as they
 do, provide medical care and vacations and even coffee breaks,
 if they didn't have to compete with union shops?


BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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