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to: Jeff Snyder
from: John Massey
date: 2009-03-30 06:51:50
subject: Obama`s Report Card

Jeff Snyder -> Ross Cassell wrote:
 JS> Hello again Ross. You made some interesting points, but I still tend to
 JS> think that regardless of which system is used, EC or DPV, there are always
 JS> going to be winners and losers.

Lets hope so.



 JS> Earlier, you mentioned the issue of political apathy, and contended that it
 JS> would be worse if we switched over to a Direct Popular Vote, because the
 JS> larger populated states would trounce the smaller states every time. While
 JS> that may possibly be true, is it really any different now?

 JS> What I mean by that is that even now there is a great deal of political
 JS> apathy in the USA. Why? Because after decades of seeing nothing
really change,
 JS> and in fact, only grow worse, a lot of people have given up and think to
 JS> themselves  "Why even vote? My vote means nothing. The rich
and the powerful will
 JS> put into office whoever they want, regardless of what I think, or
who I want."

 JS> As I said earlier, it is always Big Money that wins the election, and with
 JS> Obama we have seen it again. I was amazed, but pleased, to see Obama
 JS> destroy  the Clinton political machine.

He hasn't done any such thing.


It was akin to a political miracle, and
 JS> it goes to show how with the right powerful, elite backers behind him, even a
 JS> person who was a nobody four years ago, can become US president if
he or she is
 JS> willing to play the game, and have their strings pulled.

 JS> In short, we have apathy now because of the grip of the elite and the
 JS> powerful, and we would also have some apathy then, if the large states kept
 JS> trouncing the smaller ones.

 JS> But, there is one important difference: Even if there were to be some
 JS> apathy  under a DPV system, at least we would know that a president won an
 JS> election by the true consent of the people, and that each and every
vote truly
 JS> counted and  was worth something.

Why do you think that? If people believe that Votes are not counted now 
what makes you think they will be more accurately counted just because
there is direct election?

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