BA> Replying to a message of Bob Klahn to Tom Walker:

 TW>>> Goofing off and poor work is like some sort of Plague
 TW>>> amongst Union workers. Even the few best they may have at
 TW>>> one point become infected.

 BK>>  Goofing off and poor work is like some sort of plague amongst
 BK>>  non-union workers. Union workers tend toward a much higher level  of
 BK>> performance.

 BA> That has not been my experience.

 Do you live in a RTW state? Do you have a generally low level of
 worker competence? That would explain a lot.

 BK>>  BTW, why would you even tolerate poor work from anyone, union or
 BK>> not?

 BA> I don't.  Some employers will in order to get labor peace.
 BA> The auto workers, for instance, are (in)famous for shoddy
 BA> work - especially on Mondays when they're hung over and
 BA> Fridays when they're expecting the weekend off.  Most auto
 BA> assembly plants, for instance, have a crew at the end of
 BA> the line that inspects and fixes mistakes.

 Every factory I have seen has someone at the end of the line
 that inspects and fixes mistakes. I started in my first factory
 in 1966, in an Admiral TV factory. I was one of the crew at the
 end of the line who fixed mistakes. Others did the inspecting.

 BA> In 1976 I bought a brand new Dodge Aspen.  I was quite
 BA> happy with it until the bolt fell out of the brake linkage
 BA> about two weeks after I took delivery, nobody had bothered
 BA> to put a nut on it and none of the inspections noticed it
 BA> was miossing.  Fortunately I was doing about five mph in a
 BA> parking lot at the time.  Had I been in a situation where I
 BA> *NEEDED* those brakes I'd be dead.

 And quality is 100% a management perogative. As every Japanese
 company that has employed American workers has demonstrated. Oh,
 and Japanese car factories are unionized also.


BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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