From: Egan Orion 

Joe,

Back that up in a factually based article:  I'll quote you and link it.

All the best (as Will Z. used to say, before he sold out to Microsoft), Egan


Joe Barr wrote:
> The MS fabricated TCO goes right out the window in any case.  But expect
> more of the same.  Lying is what MS does best.  It's their products that
> suck.
>
> On Sun, 05 Jan 2003 00:33:39 +0000, Adam Flinton wrote:
>
>
>>"Geo."  wrote in message
news:3e174d55$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>
>>>"Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
>>>news:3e171f48$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>
>>>>http://www.zdnet.com/filters/printerfriendly/0,6061,2907876-92,00.html
>>>
>>>from the article:
>>>
>>><"What I've found is that a Linux administrator who
knows what he's
>>>doing should be able to administer two to three times the amount of
>>>boxes a Windows administrator should be able to
administer," he said. >
>>>
>>>Their whole tco study is based on this premise, which I believe to be
>>>not only false but totally baseless. Where is the proof for this classic
>>>assumption? This is what they offer:
>>>
>>>>>tech/business researcher Robert Frances Group (RFG), supports
>>>Schenkenfelder's claims. Robinson acknowledges that experienced admins
>>>for Linux or Solaris can be more expensive in some parts of the United
>>>States but noted that many of them have been working with Unix for
>>>dozens of
>>
>>years.
>>
>>>"One of the things that Microsoft is starting to lose out
on now, and
>>>I'm not sure they realize this yet, is that they still claim Windows
>>>administrators are cheaper," Robinson said. "But the
flip side of the
>>>same coin is that if one of my administrators on a Windows environment
>>>can
>>
>>manage
>>
>>>only 10 to 15 systems at a time, but my Solaris admin or my NetBSD or my
>>>Linux admin can manage 1,000 servers at a time, I need fewer admins.
>>>Sure, the salary's more expensive, but I get more life out of
them."  >
>>>
>>>THEY ARE ASSUMING a windows admin can only manage 10 machines but a unix
>>>admin can manage 1000? ROFL!!!!!
>>>
>>>What did the linux community do, hire Microsoft's old PR firm?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Yup. Thought you'd raise those points. Heck lets the games begin I
>>say....Bread & circus'es for me 
>>
>>Never the less.....if all things are equal but a Linux/Unix admin can
>>admin more boxes more easily...then the MS TCO stuff goes right out of the
>>window....
>>
>>I know lets organize a "adminathon" where faults are
created by evil
>>people with a sense of humour spinning a random problem generator (e.g. a
>>dice or the thing from twister) 
>>
>>Innnnn the blue corner wearing mostly his lunch is........
>>
>>Adam
>
>

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