WE> That which is the universe is ever persistent clarity of mind, orderly
 WE> yet elusive.  Chaotic the multiverse, perpetually random confusion
 WE> persistently intruding upon the universe.  For respite from both is the
 WE> nulliverse, the never present, perceivable only at its gateway
 WE> transitions of sleep, death, birth, unconsciousness, and trance.
 WE> Clarifying all of this, however, creates yet additional confusion.
 FM> Certainly has ME confused.  Are you indicating that consciousness
 FM> produces the universe or that the universe includes all things including
 FM> conscious beings whose consciousness is part of the universe but lasting
 FM> and passing - or what??
 WE> Indeed, the ontological understanding that consciousness is different
 WE> than reality is merely an objective view.
   Philosophically and scientifically speaking are you legitimately permitted
to simply ASSERT that with no further explanation or argument?  I'm 
ascinated
as to how consciousness as a part of reality could be "different" from it!!
Sincerely, 
                                     Frank
                                                                              
                                                       
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