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to: Geo.
from: Adam Flinton
date: 2003-01-05 00:33:38
subject: Re: Linux TCO study for Joe

From: "Adam Flinton" 


"Geo."  wrote in message
news:3e174d55$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
> news:3e171f48$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > http://www.zdnet.com/filters/printerfriendly/0,6061,2907876-92,00.html
>
> from the article:
>
> <"What I've found is that a Linux administrator who knows what
he's doing
> should be able to administer two to three times the amount of boxes a
> Windows administrator should be able to administer," he said. >
>
> Their whole tco study is based on this premise, which I believe to be not
> only false but totally baseless. Where is the proof for this classic
> assumption? This is what they offer:
>
>  tech/business researcher Robert Frances Group (RFG), supports
> Schenkenfelder's claims. Robinson acknowledges that experienced admins for
> Linux or Solaris can be more expensive in some parts of the United States
> but noted that many of them have been working with Unix for dozens of
years.
>
> "One of the things that Microsoft is starting to lose out on now, and I'm
> not sure they realize this yet, is that they still claim Windows
> administrators are cheaper," Robinson said. "But the flip
side of the same
> coin is that if one of my administrators on a Windows environment can
manage
> only 10 to 15 systems at a time, but my Solaris admin or my NetBSD or my
> Linux admin can manage 1,000 servers at a time, I need fewer admins. Sure,
> the salary's more expensive, but I get more life out of them."  >
>
> THEY ARE ASSUMING a windows admin can only manage 10 machines but a unix
> admin can manage 1000? ROFL!!!!!
>
> What did the linux community do, hire Microsoft's old PR firm?
>

Yup. Thought you'd raise those points. Heck lets the games begin I
say....Bread & circus'es for me 

Never the less.....if all things are equal but a Linux/Unix admin can admin
more boxes more easily...then the MS TCO stuff goes right out of the
window....

I know lets organize a "adminathon" where faults are created by
evil people with a sense of humour spinning a random problem generator
(e.g. a dice or the thing from twister) 

Innnnn the blue corner wearing mostly his lunch is........

Adam

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