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Hyerdahl1 wrote:
> >Subject: Cross-class marriages for SAHMs (and Dads)
> >From: edwalito{at}hotmail.com (edwal)
> >Date: 12/25/2004 8:01 A.M. Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id:
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> >>> (Denise Noe) Then perhaps this advice is for men. If male
doctors,
> >lawyers, executives, etc. want their children to have the presumed
> >advantages of stay-at-home motherhood, they should indeed stay away
from
> "dating
> >powerful women." Rather, they should date and marry women women
with jobs
> >that are low> paid and require little training like the ones I've
already
> >mentioned. >> >> There will be no sacrifice on the
woman's part at
> >becoming an updated June Cleaver.
> >>> Of course, this may consign upper class women and lower class men
> >to>celibacy.
> >
> >
> >Can't you see that it's exactly what is happening?
>
> Sure; I can see that. Lower class men can't marry women who won't
have them.
This is hardly just about marriage. It is also about simple sexual
appeal.
Of course sucessful, high status women do not want lower status guys
and can afford kids without them. But they are also unlikely to get
much time with the high status guys they DO want. Simple market place
forces and all of that.
In this scenario, the main winners are high status males. Which is
one reason high status males have generally been supportive of feminism
and various forms of affirmative action.
> I mean, why should a woman marry a man who can't help with the family
if she,
> herself, can support the family and not have that one more egg to
fry?
Just like in the average ghetto. Wonderful.
>
> High-powered women are complaining because men don't want them, and
they
> console>themselves saying that men are "insecure" and
"afraid of
strong
> >women".
>
> What women are doing this complaining? What I hear women saying is
that they
> are pretty content with career and family, and that they have no need
to marry
> men who simply won't do their fair share of the unpaid work.
Women with good careers also know just how cheaply (relatively) it is
to rent all of that unpaid help. The last thing such women would do is
to marry a guy for this purpose no matter how much he did along these
lines. No way at all.
Successful guys think the same way. Just rent it, never marry it.
So your harping about unpaid work is a waste of everyones time.
>
> But the real reason for it is that most men want their>children
taken care of
> by SAHMs.
>
> ???? Then let them buy women from Thailand and Russia. Or, let them
marry
> women who can't earn a living.
Or women adjust their instincts to be more favorable to economic
equality with guys.
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> Each colony is a family unit, comprising a single egg-laying female
....The
> workers cooperate in the food gathering, nest building and rearing
offspring.
> Males are reared only at times of year when their presence is
required.
> (Secret Life of Bees)
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