RK> A typical Republican/libertarian specious argument. The point I was 
RK> trying
RK> to make is that it is fallacious to think that only government run 
RK> systems
RK> such as the Canadian, German, or whatever, are the only ones that 
RK> limit
RK> health care. HMO's in this country, at times, severely limit health 
RK> care
    You're comparing apples and T-bone.  This isn't even comparing apples and 
oranges.
    HMOs aren't monopolies.  Policyholders that don't like the rationing are 
free to spend their own money (at their own cost) getting care from any 
doctor they want, without waiting lines like Canada, without care limits like 
England not paying for dialysis for those over a certain age.  HMOs cannot 
even force you to stay a customer...you are free to seek another job where 
you will not be in a HMO as part of workplace health care coverage, and you 
then will not be paying for the HMO.
    Canadians and Englishmen are not free to quit paying the national 
health-care system.  Pres. Hillary wanted you jailed if you tried to avoid 
waiting lines by paying a doctor at your own expense.  The government is 
exactly what no HMO can be: a monopoly that you cannot leave, except by 
emigration!
RK> things
RK> only a government can do. Health care is one of them.
    Really?  America has had health care for its working-age population for 
decades without federal involvement other than Medicaid for the poor, and it 
had health care for many decades without federal involvement at 
all...Medicare not till 1965 and Medicaid not until reasonably recent either.
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