Denise noe wrote:
> <<  rdubose{at}pdq.net
> Date: Fri, Dec 24, 2004 1:50 PM >>
>
>
> << Denise noe wrote:
> > Mary Eberstadt has a book out called "Home Alone" bemoaning the
fact
> that so
> > many children are away from their moms (and dads) (because of
> dual-income
> > families.  In the Louise Woodward case, Dr. Deborah Eappon was
widely
> savaged
> > for not staying home full-time with her baby (she did cut back at
> work to only
> > 3 days a week).
> > 	But it seems to me unrealistic to expect someone who has spent
tens
> of
> > thousands of dollars and many years developing the skills for a
> career to
> > abandon it completely.  The problem here may be that Dr. Sunil
Eappon
> married
> > another doctor.  If he had married across class lines -- a maid,
> cashier,
> > telemarketer, waitress, hooker, etc. -- he would have had a wife
> happy to stay
> > home full time.  There's no sacrifice of education if the  training
> for your
> > job consists of being handed a telemarketing script.  Dr. Deborah
> Eappon could
> > have had a stay-at-home-dad for her kid, IMO, had she married a
> janitor, fry
> > cook, cashier, telemarketer, etc.
> > 	People, both men and women, who have careers should marry people
who
> have jobs
> > if we want more stay-at-home parents.  How many of you think this
> would
> > alleviate the "home alone" problem and lead to more parents at
home?
> >
> >
>
>
> Sure. Absolutely. But human nature gets in the way of this
> happening. What almost all women find sexually attractive in men is
> competence, mastery, power -- significant in itself and preferrably
> greater than her own. Any guy beneath her level of possesion of these
> things will be perceived as a loser and she will feel insulted and
> demeaned by his approach.
> Telling full time professional women to solve their
> family/relationship needs by supporting a beta male is exactly like
> telling a guy to choose an obese, unattractive female because they
are
> available. Some people do indeed end up settling for that sort of
thing
> but successful people with money (male or female) are not going to
ever
> like it very much.
> And it is a waste of time telling guys to get over their
> "insecurities" regarding dating powerful women. They are being
> perceptive when they stay away, that is all. >>
>
> (Denise Noe) Then perhaps this advice is for men.  If male doctors,
lawyers,
> executives, etc. want their children to have the presumed advantages
of
> stay-at-home motherhood, they should indeed stay away from "dating
powerful
> women."  Rather, they should date and marry women women with jobs
that are low
> paid and require little training like the ones I've already
mentioned.  There
> will be no sacrifice on the woman's part at becoming an updated June
Cleaver.
>    Of course, this may consign upper class women and lower class men
to
> celibacy.
>

This is exactly what is developing in many places. Whether or not
it seems like a problem must vary according to ones situation. However,
from the standpoint of society as a whole, it may be very unhealthy
indeed.
When 90 % of the women really want only 10% of the men one can
expect to see the development of social/family structures that exist in
urbanized parts of Africa. Very few men there have the kind of careers
that women find attractive (compared to their own) but they still want
to party. So the few "good" men get whomever they want (spreading AIDS
all the while) while the larger underclass of unwanted men plan various
forms of revenge.
If women with good jobs in Capetown chose to look for partners or
spouses from among the pool of inexperienced guys there would be no
AIDS epidemic there. But of course that is entirely contrary to nature.
In the learned professions, it is the GOLDEN AGE for the men
there. There are about half as many men and four times as many women as
there used to be and the women have little natural interest in
non-professional/poorer men.



>
>
>               ****************************
> Denise Noe
> Koko the Signing Gorilla says: "Fine animal gorilla."
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