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Randall,

The Pentium D is the CPU with built in drm. =
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,121027,00.asp

Geo.
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:444abb2e{at}w3....
     You are describing the CPU price only.  I mean whole system price.  =
You want to buy a name brand like Dell or HP, right?

     I just went to dell.com.  You can get an E510 with a dual core =
Pentium D 820 and 2GB or RAM for $605 plus tax.

  Rich

    "Randall Parker" =
 wrote in message news:444aa08c$1{at}w3....
    Rich,

    Reasonable: Take the difference in price for an AMD X2 processor =
versus non-X2 at=20
    same speed and I would expect to pay what Dell/HP/etc charge for a =
regular PC plus=20
    the price difference I see for regular AMD versus AMD X2 processors =
on Pricewatch.

    For example, Pricewatch:
       http://www.pricewatch.com/cpu/
      shows the Athlon 64 x2 3800 dual core at $296 as compared to the =
Athlon 64 3800 at=20
    $284.

    In other words: I want to pay what the biggies would charge if they =
were selling the=20
    sort of computer I'm looking for. Similarly, the additional cost for =
a motherboard=20
    that can take 4 gigs isn't much more (in tens of dollars) as =
compared to one that can=20
    take 2 gigs of RAM.



    Rich wrote:
    >    How do you define reasonable price?
    > =20
    >    What do you expect for disk storage, removable media, etc?
    > =20
    > Rich
    > =20
    >=20
    >     "Randall Parker"
    >     =
     =
<mailto:obfuscate_techieSPAMpundit_now{at}STOPfutureSPAMpundit_with_bold_stu=
ff.comNOW>>
    >     wrote in message news:444a7204$1{at}w3....
    >     I was cruising thru Dell's and HP's sites and found many PCs =
that
    >     did not come with
    >     dual core options. HP had one offering that included AMD X2 =
CPU
    >     options for example.
    >=20
    >     Also, lots of them maxed out at 2 gigs RAM.
    >=20
    >     So short of building one's own box from scratch (which strikes =
me as
    >     much more time
    >     consuming and expensive as well) how can one get a dual core =
desktop
    >     PC with more
    >     than 2 gigs RAM at a reasonable price?
    >=20
    >     I also want a video card that'll drive two flat panel displays.
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Randall,
 
The Pentium D is the CPU with built in =
drm. http://w" target="new">http://w=">http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,121027,00.asp">http://w=
ww.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,121027,00.asp
 
Geo.

  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:444abb2e{at}w3....
     You are
describing the =
CPU price=20
  only.  I mean whole system price.  You want to buy a name =
brand like=20
  Dell or HP, right?
   
     I just went to =
dell.com.  You=20
  can get an E510 with a dual core Pentium D 820 and 2GB or RAM for $605 =
plus=20
  tax.
   
  Rich
   
  
    "Randall Parker" <mailto:obfuscate_techieSPAMpundit_now{at}STOPfutureSPAMpundit_with_b=
old_stuff.comNOW">obfuscate_techieSPAMpundit_now{at}STOPfutureSPAMpundit_wit=
h_bold_stuff.comNOW>=20
    wrote in message news:444aa08c$1{at}w3....Rich,=
Reasonable:=20
    Take the difference in price for an AMD X2 processor versus non-X2 =
at=20
    same speed and I would expect to pay what Dell/HP/etc charge for =
a=20
    regular PC plus the price difference I see for regular AMD =
versus AMD X2=20
    processors on Pricewatch.For example, =
Pricewatch:   http://www.pricewatch.com/cpu/=">http://www.pricewatch.com/cpu/http://www.pricewatch.com/cpu/">http://www.pricewatch.com/cpu/=
> =20
    shows the Athlon 64 x2 3800 dual core at $296 as compared to the =
Athlon 64=20
    3800 at $284.In other words: I want to
pay what the =
biggies=20
    would charge if they were selling the sort of computer I'm =
looking for.=20
    Similarly, the additional cost for a motherboard that can take 4 =
gigs=20
    isn't much more (in tens of dollars) as compared to one that can =
take 2=20
    gigs of RAM.Rich
wrote:>    =
How do you=20
    define reasonable price?> 
>    =
What do=20
    you expect for disk storage, removable media, etc?>  =
>=20
    Rich>  >
>     =
"Randall=20
    Parker">    
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old_stuff.comNOW">obfuscate_techieSPAMpundit_now{at}STOPfutureSPAMpundit_wit=
h_bold_stuff.comNOW>    =20
    <mailto:obfuscate_techieSPAMpundit_now{at}STOPfutureSPAMpundit_with_b=
old_stuff.comNOW">mailto:obfuscate_techieSPAMpundit_now{at}STOPfutureSPAMpun=
dit_with_bold_stuff.comNOW>>>    =20
    wrote in message news:444a7204$1{at}w3....>  =
;  =20
    I was cruising thru Dell's and HP's sites and found many PCs=20
    that>     did not come=20
    with>     dual
core options. HP had one =
offering=20
    that included AMD X2
CPU>     options for =

    example.>
>     Also, lots of
them =
maxed=20
    out at 2 gigs RAM.>
>     So short =
of=20
    building one's own box from scratch (which strikes me=20
    as>     much more=20
    time>    
consuming and expensive as =
well) how=20
    can one get a dual core
desktop>     PC =
with=20
    more>     than 2
gigs RAM at a reasonable =

    price?>
>     I also want a
video =
card=20
    that'll drive two flat panel =
displays.

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