Hyerdahl wrote:
> Mark Sobolewski wrote:
> > In article ,
> >  "Hyerdahl"  wrote:
> > > Mark Sobolewski wrote:
> >
>
> > > I think there are intelligent people in both parties, and the
> question
> > > that arises may be which party is smart enough to use
disengenuous
> > > tactics in order to favor the rich.  :-)  As Michael Moore said,
> > > (paraphrasing) "hey, I'm ok; the vote for Bush made me richer.  I
> don't
> > > have to worry, I have health insurance and my job hasn't been
> > > outsourced."  :-)
> >
> > Indeed.  The American people "got the memo" (get it) about
> > hysterical propoganda being used by certain leftists.
> > MM has no credibility outside of hardcore leftist
> > encampments.  Moderate leftists I know consider him
> > an embarassment.
>
> Whether or not he is an "embarassment" he's correct.  :-)

http://tinyurl.com/67knv

In an earlier time, I think, Moore would have gone down
in history as a master propogandist and achieved visible
results.  Instead, due to the Internet, his (and Dan
Rather's) ploys were easily exposed resulting in
a backlash equal to whatever results they hoped to obtain.
Credible leftists, who were hoping to sell such ideas
as gun control and Kerry outside of Boston, S.F.,
and DC had to apologize for him.

> (edit)
>
> I have to tell you, Mark, I'm not really into a rehash of old
> elections.
> Sorry.>

Yet, that's precisely what Moore made his millions on, yes?
Ironically, he tied this albatross around Kerry's neck
and it dragged him on down.

Hopefully, he'll keep this up for the next 4 years.  Please.
Oh, pretty please! :-)

> > I object to Bush> in office.
> >
> > HAHAHAHAHA!  Good luck!  Are you bitter?
>
> Not really.  His days are numbered, no?

Yeah, due to term limits. :-)

In the meantime, he has political capital to spend...

> (edit)>
>
> > > Had the Republicans chosen a reputable leader I don't think
> > > I'd be as critical.
> >
> > Er, in a free republic the party doesn't ask it's opposition
> > to choose it's leader. :-)  I don't see Hillary asking
> > the republicans if they like her.
>
> I don't think Hillary is ready to be president, nor do I think she'll
> run the next time around.

If Clark had gotten the nomination, I might have gotten worried.
Heck, even Dean had a chance.  (I heard some people even
got "Dean for President" tattoos!!!)

The bad thing about the system is that it's the insiders
who get the nomination.  Hillary is best placed for it.

> > > Also, keep in mind, that I also didn't like Al Gore either.  It
> would
> > > have been nice to have had two good choices.
> >
> > Yep, just as with the SC, you toss him over the side of the boat
> > when he doesn't work out.  See?!?!
>
> Mark, I'm not arguing with you about the SC decision.  We've been
> there, done that.

We're arguing over whether the same SC you believe has
some kind of magical power to interpret the holy constitution
is somehow now flawed and human when it suits you.

By doing so, you've shot any credibility about Roe VS Wade
being unquestionably constitutional.  All bets are off.

> > > Had Powell run, for
> > > example, I would have been able to vote Republican.  :-)
> >
> > Unfortunately for you, saavy republicans know he's
> > swings very far to the left.  Instead, he's been used
> > for publicity purposes very effectively and sat
> > around at the State department.
> >
> > Very clever politics on the part of the RNC.
>
> Yes, I think he's been used.  I don't think using people is right.

Indeed:

>  Was
> it smart?  Perhaps.  Rice is also being used.  But since the subject
> matter here is Bush putting teens at risk, THAT is what I want to
talk
> about.  You can rehash old politics alone.

Oh, really!

You chuckle when women get away with exploiting children
for the purposes of mommy-support and welfare and
celebrate public schools putting teenagers in all kinds
of jeopardy because it means mo' money for government
socialist programs for your agenda.

Millions of aging career women are now winding up spinsters
simply so that people who share your agenda can feel
a little bit better about themselves.

regards,
Mark Sobolewski



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