Dustbin wrote:
> Hyerdahl wrote:
>
> > Mark Sobolewski wrote:
> >
> >>In article ,
> >> Dustbin  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Mark Sobolewski wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>In article
,
> >>>> Dustbin  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>[violin playing]
> >>
> >>In Europe and even the States, population would largely
> >>shrink AND living standards rise and the environment
> >>benefit if it wasn't for socialist support
> >>for illegal immigration and feminism.
> >
> >
> > Feminism supports both enviornmentalism and the notion of the
shrinking
> > family.  So, I'm not sure why you included feminism as being
against
> > those things.  As to illegal immigration, I'm in favor of a very
strict
> > immigration policy, similar to the one is Oz.
> >
> One of the problems with feminism it that it
> keeps changing from moment to moment to meet the
> requirements of the argument.
>
> Feminism is not the same thing from day to day.
> In some respects it is like socialism - it can
> be a very broad concept and different people can
> find themselves at different points on the
> spectrum between extremes.
>
> For example, Germaine Greer, in The Female
> Eunuch has no difficuklty in identifying
> capitalism as the problem;

Indeed.  Feminism is closely tied to socialism since
women are not equal to men and most require a substitute
husband and a police state to survive.

> that women's misery
> is a requirement of the system of production and
> consumption; that her role is to entrap a man
> and "screw him into the commercial machine" etc.
>
> D.
>
> >
> >   Illegal> immigration creates stress on the society helping
> >
> >>to create problems with housing, transportion, etc.
> >>as well as feminism having career women use
> >>all kinds of instant products to help them
> >>save time which they would have done at home.
> >>
> >
> > Women and men both use the same kinds of things to make life easier
at
> > home and at work.  Mark is just a sexist.  He only wants the
goodies
> > for men.  In the meantime illegal immigration needs to be ended or
> > limited, whichever is possible.  AND, legal immigration should be
> > tightened, so that we draw those here who will contribute to our
> > society, more than they take from it.
> >
> >
> >
> >>(edit)
> >
> >
> >>>Question: If socialism is so great, why is it always
> >>
> >>necessary to raise taxes?  One thing you can say
> >>about capitalism: They sure do lower the cost of
> >>all those cars to trash the world, eh?  If socialists
> >>ran things (as they did in Eastern Europe), people
> >>would live in poverty AND trash the environment.
> >>Win win!
> >
> >
> > I don't know what you mean by that, Mark.  London still swings like
a
> > pendulum 'do'.  :-)  I mean right now we have friends spending
their
> > very valuable lbs over here on their vacation.  As to pure
capitalism
> > or pure communism, the dog dies no matter which you choose.
> >
> > (edit)
> >
> >
> >>Here's the thing: It's a lot easier to control capitalism,
> >>through a system of checks and balances, than it is
> >>to basically have the wolf watch the henhouse which
> >>is having a single form of oversight for industry
> >>and government.
> >
> >
> > I agree with Mark on this issue;  I consider myself a compassionate
> > capitalist.  :-)
> >
> >
> >>>regards,
> >>
> >>Mark Sobolewski
> >
> >



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