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to: Robert Comer
from: Rich
date: 2003-01-29 10:45:00
subject: Re: Rant against MS

From: "Rich" 

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   George was going on about Slapper at Microsoft.  You can rant on =
other topics if you want but it makes no difference.

   I also gree that George's conclusions are unsupported by his premise =
and argument but since the premise was false, the rest falls apart = anyway.

Rich

  "Robert Comer"  wrote in message =
news:3e3808c2{at}w3.nls.net...
  I don't think i'd agree with it being a false premise, at least for a
  majority of us users out here -- products are on CD and the copy =
protection
  is that activation crap and the product key.

  Anyway, i don't see what he is saying would work either, most people =
don't
  have the bandwidth to be downloading a CD everytime they want to do an
  install...

  - Bob Comer


  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e3805ce$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     From below, that installs are from CD and that the products are =
copy
  protected.  His full rant probably contains more.

  Rich

  "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
  news:3e378a2a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  What false premise?

  - Bob Comer


  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e378899$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     The first problem with George's rant is that it is based on a false
  premise.

  Rich

  "Antti Kurenniemi"  wrote in message
  news:3e3762ee{at}w3.nls.net...
  That really sounds likea a good idea. Unfortunately I think it will =
probably
  never happen :-(


  Antti Kurenniemi

  "Geo."  wrote in message
news:3e374ea7{at}w3.nls.net...
  > yes I read all about it. It occurs to me that a big part of the
  > problem with how they are dealing with this problem is
  > actually related to copy protection. One of the things that
  > causes all these unpatched machines to continuously be
  > available is that people are always doing new
  > installs/re-installs for whatever reasons. They are forced
  > to use the original CD which of course contains unpatched
  > code, then apply service pack and lord knows how many
  > hot fixes.[snip]


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was going on about =
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Microsoft.  You can rant on other topics if you want but it makes = no=20
difference.
 
   I also
gree that George's =
conclusions=20
are unsupported by his premise and argument but since the premise was = false, the=20
rest falls apart anyway.
 
Rich
 

  "Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>
= wrote in=20
  message news:3e3808c2{at}w3.nls.net...I
= don't=20
  think i'd agree with it being a false premise, at least for =
amajority of=20
  us users out here -- products are on CD and the copy protectionis =
that=20
  activation crap and the product key.Anyway, i don't see what =
he is=20
  saying would work either, most people don'thave the bandwidth to =
be=20
  downloading a CD everytime they want to do
aninstall...- =
Bob=20
  Comer"Rich" <{at}>
wrote in message news:3e3805ce$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
  =20
  From below, that installs are from CD and that the products are=20
  copyprotected.  His full rant probably contains=20
  more.Rich"Robert Comer"
<bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>
= wrote in=20
  messagenews:3e378a2a$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
What=20
  false premise?- Bob
Comer"Rich" <{at}> wrote
in =
message=20
  news:3e378899$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
  =20
  The first problem with George's rant is that it is based on a=20
 
falsepremise.Rich"Antti
Kurenniemi" <Antti_Kurenniemi{at}hotmail.com=">mailto:Antti_Kurenniemi{at}hotmail.com">Antti_Kurenniemi{at}hotmail.com=
>=20
  wrote in messagenews:3e3762ee{at}w3.nls.net...That=
 really=20
  sounds likea a good idea. Unfortunately I think it will =
probablynever=20
  happen :-(Antti
Kurenniemi"Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote in =
message news:3e374ea7{at}w3.nls.net...>=
 yes I=20
  read all about it. It occurs to me that a big part of the> =
problem with=20
  how they are dealing with this problem is> actually related to =
copy=20
  protection. One of the things that> causes all these unpatched =
machines=20
  to continuously be> available is that people are always doing=20
  new> installs/re-installs for whatever reasons. They are =
forced>=20
  to use the original CD which of course contains unpatched> =
code, then=20
  apply service pack and lord knows how many> hot=20
fixes.[snip]

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