MICHAEL MARTINEZ spoke of Re: Ivan Illich to DAN TRIPLETT on 08-14-96
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MM> MM>But you're missing the point.  You'd also be well-rounded without
MM> MM>the schooling and educational experience, in a non-schooled
MM> MM>society. You'd be learning from all kinds of teachers who have
MM> MM>skills to offer that are easily accessible and autonomous.
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MM> DT> Not necessarily, I wouldn't have studied many of the thing
MM> DT> required of me to get certified.  I studied many subjects
MM> DT> because I had to take  required courses and along the way
MM> DT> developed interests that otherwise I  never would have developed
MM> DT> (most likely). 
MM>You see the kinds of words you're using, though?  "Certified" and
MM>things like that.  We shouldn't have to be certified.  Things should
MM>be easily accessible, like open-air marketplaces.
Sounds like a familiar cry:  "It's not fair!"  Often the battle cry of 
those who don't like to have to work to prove themselves or "pay their 
dues" as they say.  Life is not fair.  Never has bee  completely fair.  
We shouldn't have to be certified?  But we do -- learn to live with it.
As I read your post on Illich I am brought to wonder just how much 
change needs to happen in our society as a whole in order for the 
structure of schools to change. I am also made to wonder, that if 
Illich's ideas are so great, there where are his followers.  As far as I 
can remember, I have never heard of him in any serious vein before.  
Dan
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