On Mar 5, 11:46=A0pm, sicklittlemonkey  wrote:
> On Mar 5, 8:35=A0pm, apple2fr...{at}gmail.com wrote:
>
> > This is true in theory; however in practice I have yet to experience
> > any Java program running more quickly (or with less memory) than an
> > equivalent C++ program on any platform.
>
> Experience away. I hope you'll excuse a C example:http://bytonic.de/html/=
benchmarks.html
> (Top right data cell.)
>
How many benchmarks did you have to search through before you came
across one that showed Java being faster than C or C++?  I'll bet
quite a few.

Try http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4/benchmark.php?test=3Dall&lang=3Dj=
avaclient&lang2=3Dicpp&box=3D1
for a better comparison.

> I have yet to see a C++ program as easily and safely refactored, or a C
> ++ framework for web development, dependency injection etc that is as
> productive and scalable as is readily accomplished in contemporary
> Java.
>
Then you have not used C++ with the Boost libraries.  Look over www.boost.o=
rg
if you're genuinely curious.  Oh, and Boost is part of the C++0x
standard.

> Really, your harpooning of Java and likening of it to C++ for dummies
> is quite unnecessary here. I'm sure we all agree that choice of
> language depends on many things, and each has strengths and weaknesses
> in various domains.
>
I agree that this is not an appropriate forum for such discussions.

Followups should go to comp.lang.c++ and/or comp.lang.java.

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