JM>>>>> * They don't want to have to defend the revelation that
 JM>>>>> Obama and his family will not be subject to the
 JM>>>>> restrictions, requirements and penalties of ObamaCare.

 BK>>>> Uh... the president has his own medical team.

 JM>>> Like I said that he's exempt from his own program that he
 JM>>> is pushing on the rest of the country.

 BK>>  Only while he's in office. He don't get that medical team
 BK>> once  he's out of office.

 BK>>  The military is exempt also.

 BA> The military has Tricare, and members have no choice or say
 BA> in the matter. Note that the military has been and
 BA> presumably continues to close military hospitals at active
 BA> bases all over the country.

 Thank the republicans for that. Under universal health care that
 won't matter.

 BK>>  For that matter, anyone with employer provided insurance
 BK>> will  see little difference. What little they will see will
 BK>> be more  service.

 BA> I seriously doubt both of those claims.

 You doubt without reason.

 BK>>>> Are you willing to defend the fact that Bush got gold
 BK>>>> plated medical care while 45 million had no coverage, and
 BK>>>> limited care?

 BA> Nope.  Nor will I defend Obama having that same care.

 Well, that's a start. Oh, and when they talk about taxing gold
 plated health care, my response is, the only one I know of who
 has gold plated health care is the president. And the VP I
 expect.

 JM>>> Bush is no longer president, I don't care what Bush did. I
 JM>>> care about what the current president is doing to the
 JM>>> United States.

 BK>>  IOW, it's all about Obama. Thanks for admitting it.

 BK>>  BTW, do you denounce Mitt Romney for writing and getting
 BK>> enacted  a program very much like this one?

 No response to that one.

 JM>>>>> * They don't want to have to explain how an insurance
 JM>>>>> company can charge lower premiums when its healthier
 JM>>>>> policy holders take a hike and they're forced to insure
 JM>>>>> people who are already sick.

 BK>>>> That is why they have mandated coverage. The only other
 BK>>>> alternative is single payer government medicine.

 BA> That's not the only other alternative.  The alternative to
 BA> mandated coverage is to leave the business.  When *all*

 Not as long as they are making money, which they will either
 way. That's how it works in the rest of the industrialized
 world.

 BA> health insurors leave the business one's choice will be the
 BA> government.  Presumably that same government will also
 BA> outlaw the use of cash, checks or credit cards in payment
 BA> for medical services - to prevent those evil rich people
 BA> from acquiring medical services they aren't "entitled" to.

 Conspiracy theory run amuck.

 BA> Note, however, that those evil rich people will simply go
 BA> to someplace outside the control of the government to
 BA> obtain the services they want.

 Since the only places worth living have national health care,
 your theory is faulty.

 BA> They may even permanently
 BA> relocate outside the reach of the US government, and take
 BA> as many of their assets with them as they can. Better hurry

 What can they take they are not sending there now? Their art
 collections? Their expensive houses? The first doesn't do me a
 lot of good, and the latter isn't quite practical.

 Their money? It has to be spent here sooner or later or it's
 worthless.

 BA> up and pass Ted Kennedy's proposal to confiscate the assets
 BA> of everybody leaving the country.

 Why? Where are they going to take them? China? Aside from the
 fact that they really don't want to live there, they are taking
 their factories there now. So what's the difference?

 Everything they can threaten to take overseas they are already
 sending overseas. Until we stop that we don't have to worry abou
 them leaving. And if we can stop that, they can leave, but the
 factories will still be here.



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