-=>> Bob Ackley wrote to BOB KLAHN <=-

 BK>>  Other than construction work I don't know of any place
 BK>> union membership is necessary to get a job.

 DD> And that only if you are sent out from the union hiring
 DD> hall - in which case you have to have been a member of the
 DD> union already to be able to use the services of the hiring
 DD> hall. The merchant seaman's unions are much the same. But,

 I had forgotten the merchant seamen.

 DD> if one manages to get a construction job/or merchant marine
 DD> job without going through the hiring hall - the worker then

 Those jobs are apprenticeship jobs. Now days they are entered
 through testing and independent review, but they then trian
 in the union. Often the union has classrooms for the school
 portion of the training.

 ...

 DD> Under whatever name - the union has a "closed shop"
 DD> agreement with the employer which is enforceable in all but
 DD> right-to-work states. And this is a problem for you - just
 DD> how?

 Where you have to join the union after hiring it's called a
 union shop. If you have to be union before you are hired it's a
 closed shop. I believe, since the apprentices are hired before
 they are in the union, there are no more closed shops.

 Though it wouldn't surprise me if there was one somewhere.


BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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