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echo: meadow
to: MICHAEL EPLER
from: JIM BARCHUK
date: 1997-04-13 19:30:00
subject: Re: Opus Wishlist...

ÿ
 Hello, Michael Epler, I'd like you to meet my friend, Harvey...
ME>> Bingo..... yes, I have seen this file available on several wc 
ME>> systems. All I am suggesting is that OEC/MECCA tokens, 
ME>> compilers and decompilers are similiar in concept to the tokens 
ME>> used in HTML. Since I do not program, I have no honest idea how 
ME>> hard it is to make it work.......
jb>> I can see how you think there are parallels,  but  it 
jb>> really is quite different.  
 ME> Most of this was in the other post directly from the HTML 
 ME> source. 
Right, not the issue.
 ME> This is the last post I prefer to make about this since it seems no 
 ME> matter what is said you want to either dismiss it or argue it, I choose 
 ME> to do neither. 
Not at all, in fact I wrote:
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Date:   1997-01-31 22:29:19
From:   jim barchuk
To:     Trev Roydhouse
Subj:   An Opus rising ...
 TR> Tonight I received an email response from Wynn Wagner III (the copyright 
 TR> holder) giving his permission for mounting such an effort. He also 
 TR> wondered whether anyone was still interested in Opus ... a valid enough 
 TR> query.  
...interface. I don't know if you've looked into this, Wynn, I've heard that 
KA9Q can do it but haven't tried, but if you could induce Opus to respond to 
a PPP connection and serve HTML, I can virtually guarantee folks'd be piling 
back in droves.
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-Nothing- would please me more than to see Opus do PPP. The point of my post 
was to describe that there really is no  parallel between OEC and HTML, that 
once the PPP connection is made  the interpretation is done by the -browser- 
rather than the server.
 ME> I happen to work enough with HTML to construct pages and have worked 
with 
 ME> oec/mecca stuff from the beginning in opus. 
I've also been doing HTML and CGI 12 hrs a day for just about a year. It's a 
snap, where OEC is a real PITA and I only do the minimal required to get done 
what I need.
 ME> WEBBBS11.ZIP [    ] WebBBS runs on your Bulletin Board System 
 ME> as a door program. When callers connect to your BBS using
 ME> combination internet browser & modem terminal software
 ME> such as I-comm they will see HTML pages with SVGA
 ME> pictures, WWW internet style web pages just like on
 ME> internet.
Yep, tried it, jut came through DDSDOORS a few days ago. Tried IComm but as 
soon as I exited it Win locked up like a brick and I won't try it again.
The drawback to that system is that it requires a bit more work than the 
average user would be comfortable with. Install SZ, dial, go through door,  
and switch to browser mode. Straght PPP would be many X easier on the user, 
though many X more difficult for the BBS author. I -do- have an honest idea 
of how difficult it is to make it  work.
 ME> All I ever requested was that future opus work moves in that 
 ME> direction. The developer didn't say it could not happen, you did.   
I absolutely positively did not.
 ME> ...... end of thread.
Too bad.
:-)
jB-)
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