On Mar 6, 2:46=C2=A0am, apple2fr...{at}gmail.com wrote:
> How many benchmarks did you have to search through before you came
> across one that showed Java being faster than C or C++? =C2=A0I'll bet
> quite a few.

No, I knew it offhand. It was news about 3 years ago.

> Tryhttp://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4/benchmark.php?test=3Dall=E2=8C=
=A9=3Djav...
> for a better comparison.

Thanks for the link. Java looks "good enough" in most cases.
My point was not which language can be fastest or smallest.
We know the answer to that one.

But if you have an app that's closed source, and you run the
exe/jar in a few years time on a faster CPU, it _is_ possible
for Java to "win".

(Of course, they might both break. Viva la OSS.)

> > I have yet to see a C++ program as easily and safely refactored, or a C
> > ++ framework for web development, dependency injection etc that is as
> > productive and scalable as is readily accomplished in contemporary
> > Java.
>
> Then you have not used C++ with the Boost libraries. =C2=A0Look overwww.b=
oost.org
> if you're genuinely curious. =C2=A0Oh, and Boost is part of the C++0x
> standard.

But I have, though not much recently. Boost is very cool but has
nothing to do with what I mentioned. Again, my point is that in each
language some things are easier, others harder.

> I agree that this is not an appropriate forum for such discussions.

Agreed.

Cheers,
Nick.
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