From: "Robert Comer" 

No, the only time I have a problem with it is when Windows update installs
the wrong driver...  (I've seen it with NIC's, audio and video cards...)

--
Bob Comer





"Rich"  wrote in message news:449995a9{at}w3.nls.net...
   Incomplete, absolutely.  Only devices with drivers available have IDs
known.  An ID that is unknown is still one that is identified.  Are you
just complaining that Windows and/or Windows Update do not have drivers for
all devices that exist in the world?  Of course they don't.

Rich

  "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
news:4499947b{at}w3.nls.net...
  >   Must be an issue with the NICs you buy.

  Nope, the only one I've ever seen it identify correctly is the Intel/Dec
  11240 type. (older than the hills in other words)

  >I have never had a problem.  In any case, any problem is with the
hardware.
  >The >hardware identifies itself to the OS and anyone else.  Unless the
  >hardware >provides a bad ID there is no problem.

  Or the OS has in incomplete/incorrect list to match up to...

  --
  Bob Comer





  "Rich"  wrote in message news:44999326$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     Must be an issue with the NICs you buy.  I have never had a problem.
In
  any case, any problem is with the hardware.  The hardware identifies
itself
  to the OS and anyone else.  Unless the hardware provides a bad ID there is
  no problem.

  Rich

    "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
  news:44973abc$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    WinXP *rarely* gets a PCI NIC right...

    --
    Bob Comer


    "Rich"  wrote in message news:44971e38{at}w3.nls.net...
       Not correct.  I do expect a PC to automatically detect any off the
  shelf
    adapter that is plugged in.  I do not expect that all drivers will be
    automatically available but that is a distinct issue from recognizing
the
    hardware.  If I have a device without a driver Windows can still tell me
    exactly what that device is.  Windows will offer to automatically search
  for
    the driver if it is not available and for me often finds those drivers.
  If
    the hardware vendors choose they can have their drivers made available
  that
    way.

    Rich

      "Don Hills"  wrote in message
    news:zY5kEtgaX2wD092yn{at}attglobal.net...
      In article , "Rich"  wrote:
      >   You don't expect a mainframe to automatically detect any off the
      >shelf adapter that is plugged in.  The PC could go back to the dark
  ages
      >too as this is how things used to be when the PC first came to be.

      You don't expect a PC to automatically detect any off the shelf
adapter
    that
      is plugged in, either. A device driver has to be present that will
    recognise
      the adapter's ID or that the adapter is plug compatible with another.
  OS/2
      and Windows 9x have device drivers that recognise plug compatible
    adapters.
      The c.s.i.p.h folks are currently running tests using the Windows 9x
  Spock
      SCSI driver for the dozen or so plug compatible Micro Channel SCSI
    adapters
      from various manufacturers that are known to exist.

      --
      Don Hills

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