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to: Don Hills
from: Rich
date: 2006-06-13 17:47:26
subject: Re: PCI hardware ID

From: "Rich" 

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   64K more than enough?  Maybe for mca which failed.

   As for identifying compatible devices, mca lacks this mechanism.  =
It's entirely a guessing game.  The PCI approach is that the device =
identifies with what it is compatible.

Rich

  "Don Hills"  wrote in message =
news:ci0jEtgaXe+I092yn{at}attglobal.net...
  In article , "Rich"  wrote:
  >    Do you mean the 16-bit mca adapter IDs though would run out if =
there
  >were 64K unique devices?  The one that lacks the mechanisms present =
in
  >PCI to identify compatible devices?

  That's the one. The one that's been working since the 80's. The one =
that,
  like IPv4, proved to have more than enough IDs available for the =
designers'
  foreseeable future.
  And take a look in recent threads in comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware by =
UZnal
  regarding the Spock and XGA drivers from Windows 98 to see how =
clueless
  Microsoft were at "identifying compatible devices" for Micro Channel. =
(In
  summary, he's used the DDK to figure out why the drivers have never =
worked
  right, and fixed them.)

  >   I did find an interesting list at
  >http://www.mcamafia.de/mcapage0/mca.dat.
  >This is what a mca enthusiest has come up with.  Sad.

  There are many such lists around. I have a printed catalog listing =
over a
  thousand Micro Channel adapters and their manufacturers. Very useful =
when
  you come across an unidentified adapter. (You may dismiss old computer
  hardware as irrelevant, but tinkering with old computers is no =
different
  than, say, tinkering with old cars.)

  --=20
  Don Hills
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Rich
 

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drivers from=20
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  old cars.)-- Don =
Hills  

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