RF>    Not so. Look at the Bernie S (Ed Cummings) case. 4 years in a feder
RF>prison for simple possesion of a "redbox". No victims, no evidence the
RF>redbox was ever used, but 4 years in federal prison (courtesy of the US
RF>Secret Service) simply for possessing a redbox. (Wonder why they call
RF>themselves Secret? Sounds like the Secret Police to me.)
I did not know about this case, thanks for the info.
RF> I see little difference between possesion of a redbox and possesion of
RF>modified scanner that can monitor blocked frequencies or even a scanner
RF>that can recieve cordless phone communications. I doubt the gov't would
RF>see a difference either. Where there's careers to be made, those in the
RF>gov't will prosecute anyone for anything if they think it will help the
RF>career(s). They all want to be big stars and who cares who gets stepped
RF>and who's rights get violated? And if the question of a citizen's right
RF>comes up, they just run another story on why they need to violate the
RF>rights of private citizens because of drug traffickers and terrorists.
RF>People see those drug trafficker and terrorist stories on their TV sets
RF>and it molds public opinion. (Gotta control that beast if they wanna ge
RF>re-"elected".)
The problem is that the criminals are getting worse and worse and the laws 
are not able to keep up with them.  Some rights will get violated for the 
grater good (I hope.)
RF> Another interesting point. Why is the gov't allowed to purchase scanne
RF>that have no frequencies blocked out? By law, gov't agent(cies) are
RF>required to obtain a court order to monitor private conversations and t
RF>show cause why they need to monitor private communications prior to
RF>monitoring private communications. If they are allowed to purchase
RF>scanners that are full coverage who's to stop them from simply turning 
RF>their scanners and illegally monitoring private communications? The
RF>answer, no one.
That's a good point.
RF> BTW in case you don't know, a redbox is simply a device that can gener
RF>quarter tones. On some older payphones if you play the correct tones in
RF>the payphone's reciever, it will think you just put money into it. A
RF>quarter tone is a simple series of 5 tones. The same sound the payphone
RF>would generate when you put a quarter into it. Each tone is equal to on
RF>nickel. A dime would generate 2 tones and a nickel would generate 1 ton
RF> So be warned. Bernie S now, maybe me or you next. No one is immune to
RF>"OUR" government and its agent(cies). Just because you're just a little
RF>guy doesn't mean you're not gonna be next. The only thing being a littl
RF>guy means is that if they do come after you, they'll more than likely w
RF>given they have unlimited financial resources (your tax dollars) and yo
RF>won't have the same amount of resources to adequately defend yourself
RF>(legally) and you will most likely end up imprisoned like Bernie S is n
I do not see things in quite that light but I respect your views.  
Interesting stuff about the tones.
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