Heidi Graw wrote:
> > wrote in message
> >news:1105475076.014326.168360{at}f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Hyerdahl1 wrote:
> >
> >> Re: Women Enforce Equal Rights AGAIN!
> >
> > They didn't enforce equal rights, as no one has an inherent right
to
> > join the Bay State Eagles, a private organization.  They forced
> > themselves on a club whose members didn't want them.  So much for
the
> > "choice" they so often carp about.  We once had the right to
associate
> > freely with whom we pleased, but this too is being eroded, and you
call
> > that "equal rights."
>
> Greg..that *isn't* equal rights.  The judges are not ruling fairly
when
> these women gripe about not being allowed in a men's club.  There are
other

Oh my.  Of course you realize that if you agree with me again, I'll
have to change my opinion.  Please, don't make me do that.

Seriously, you're right.  They are not ruling fairly, but it's a bit
difficult for them when they have to rule according to bad law.  It's
my hope that they issued this ruling because they were staying true to
their function as interpreters of the law, and not de facto
legislators.  Perhaps they expected that this would be appealed to a
higher court, and one with the authority to strike down the law as
unconstitutional.  Perhaps the law will be struck.  In any event, it's
a positive step if they ruled according to the law, and not their own
poitical ideas.

Does anyone know how high it has to get before the courts can strike
down a law?  Steve?  Are you out there?

> choices in town of clubs which would have welcomed them as members.
And

Yes, and it's not that the Bay Eagles don't like women.  It's just
that, sometimes we want a space where there are no women.  Going to a
club like this is similar to engaging in a pick-up basketball game.  It
gets a masculine vibe going, and if a woman comes around, it lessens
the vibe.  That vibe is good for us.  It's also good to have dates and
girlfriends, but I think a lot of men would prefer to compartmentalize
those two areas of a man's life.  Sometimes it's Jeckyl and Hyde.  One
wants to be the sensitive loving type when he's with his lover, but the
Spartan type when he's with the guys.

> even if another charitable org didn't exist in Lakeville, they could
have
> created their own.

Oh yes, and women have shown themselves adept at creating women's
organizations, because they sometimes want to gather without men.  Fine
with me.

> You have the right to freedom of association.  The judges need to be
> reminded of that.

It would be nice, but they generally aren't elected, so I'm not sure
what can be done.  Ideally, they should just look at what the
legislators write.  Then, we can dump the legislators if they write bad
law.
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