From: "Mark" 

Bob, The way I see it, you're worried that the government will
inadvertently, while mining for terrorists, find out that you like sardine
and cream cheese sandwiches on pumpernickel bread, and surely that
information would be extremely embarrassing 

I worry that your, and your cohorts, efforts to prevent the government from
finding out that embarrassing information inadvertently, thus preventing
their efficient gathering of intelligence against the enemies as well, will
get you and me both killed on our way down to the deli to buy same
sandwich. i.e. I don't give a flying fig if the government finds out I like
weird food by accident, and I welcome their laughing at those choices if
they so choose, but in return for their amusement, I also expect them to
make sure I can get to that deli and buy what I want without dying en
route.

I'm sure you don't agree, as it appears your "privacy" is more
important than life, and I understand your point of view, I used to share
it. You may see it my way in your own evolution, or not, but there's not
any argument in present time that will change your, or my, mind.


"Robert Comer"  wrote in message
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>> I'm pretty sure I'm missing something, direction/context or something in
>> your post Bob. By "he" do you mean me or John?
>
> You.  I don't understand why you're so afraid of the terrorists that you
> are willing to give up what this country stands for so willingly.
>
>> What I'm afraid of is having to barricade myself in down the road, after
>> every single frigging effort the government attempts to use to nail the
>> bastards, while there's still time to save our way of life as we know it,
>> is leaked by moles inside the government and published by the NYTs, thus
>> placing us all (troops first, for now) at greater risk of loss of life.
>
> That's just it, it appears you want to give up our way of life to stop the
> terrorists, that's just not understandable to me.  The chances of them
> doing just that is so vanishingly small that I don't want to give up
> anything to protect against them.
>
> And as for our government, they're the ones pissing the Arabs off -- and
> more of a cause of terrorism than probably anything else.  Karzai said it
> yesterday, us fighting terrorism like this is not the way to go, we have
> to get to the root of the problem and fix that, not just senselessly
> killing each other.
>
>> All because too many (well, yes "too many" but the polls
showed that an
>> overwhelming majority had no problem with the NSA program, and an even
>> higher percentage will find favor with the latest leaked program -- now
>> rendered useless) ...
>
> I could care less what the sheeple say they like, what the government is
> doing *wrong* and very un-American.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> "Mark"  wrote in message
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>>
>> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
>> news:449caa0b$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>I think I said that because I've questioned him on the same concept and
>>>not in much nicer words either. 
>>>
>>> I really don't know why he's so afraid of terrorists.  Sorry Mark, but I
>>> *really* don't understand.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure I'm missing something, direction/context or something in
>> your post Bob. By "he" do you mean me or John?
>>
>> If you mean me, not at all, no fear whatsoever. My original point was
>> that AT&T doesn't want to get hit with a bunch of frivolous lawsuits
>> (like Verizon et al. did when the NYTs undermined our national security
>> with their leak prior to this latest one) because they let the government
>> look at communications by terrorists, or allowed a look to chase down a
>> potential terrorist, so they're changing their privacy policy to try and
>> avoid a few billion dollars in lawyer fees, they'll still have to spend
>> millions regardless and all of our phone bills will go up because of it,
>> just not as much.
>>
>> What I'm afraid of is having to barricade myself in down the road, after
>> every single frigging effort the government attempts to use to nail the
>> bastards, while there's still time to save our way of life as we know it,
>> is leaked by moles inside the government and published by the NYTs, thus
>> placing us all (troops first, for now) at greater risk of loss of life.
>>
>> All because too many (well, yes "too many" but the polls
showed that an
>> overwhelming majority had no problem with the NSA program, and an even
>> higher percentage will find favor with the latest leaked program -- now
>> rendered useless) of us everyday law abiding citizens are worried that
>> "Bush" will find out we like "Noritake" china,
or shopping "Blue Light"
>> specials at Kmart. They already know that stuff anyway, and they don't
>> care, nor should we -- this our government working to protect us, not
>> indict us for nothing.
>>
>
>

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