From: "Robert Comer" 

> It's the std route. Orwell put it well in animal farm.

Orwell saw a lot of things coming that I wouldn't have believed until now.
:(

> Yup. Heck youz guyz were willing to fight & die over taxes &
> representation but oooooh some bloke wiv beards are eeewww so scary.

Not to me!  I'm far more likely to get killed falling down the stairs when
I get off work in a few than I am to get killed by a terrorist in the
foreseeable future.

> Give away your liberty & you may be giving away your life as well
> (dependent upon the whims of the leaders).

Absolutely.

> I also find it humorous that those who were most in favour of "dealing
> with Saddam" because of his pervasive security apparatus are so in
> favour of it at home.

I don't find it humorous at all, but it does tend to follow. :(

> Nah you have to fight to keep what you have. That's the problem with
> your lawyer/paper monarch combo wrt protecting you, it makes you forget
> that & thus have to rely on the lawyers.

I'm not sure I follow, but that piece of paper seems to no longer apply, at
least when it comes to the republicans in power right now.

--
Bob Comer





"Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
field.near the bridge"> wrote in message
news:44a046bb$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> Robert Comer wrote:
>>> Bob, The way I see it, you're worried that the government will
>>> inadvertently, while mining for terrorists, find out that you like
>>> sardine and cream cheese sandwiches on pumpernickel bread, and surely
>>> that information would be extremely embarrassing 
>>
>> So privacy isn't important to you, well, that's not the way I feel and
>> it's certainly not the way our country was set up -- the individual is
>> supposed to count.  It's true I have nothing to hide, and nothing to be
>> embarrassed about, but it's the principle of the thing.  You give them
>> this much they'll take more...
>>
>
> Chuckle nah you give them this much in the cause of defeating
> terrorism/paedophilic sex crimes &...suddenly the envelope (which you
> have agreed to) is .....expanded.....
>
> It's the std route. Orwell put it well in animal farm.
>
>>> I worry that your, and your cohorts, efforts to prevent the government
>>> from finding out that embarrassing information inadvertently, thus
>>> preventing their efficient gathering of intelligence against the
>>> enemies as well, will get you and me both killed on our way down to
>>> the deli to buy same sandwich. i.e. I don't give a flying fig if the
>>> government finds out I like weird food by accident, and I welcome
>>> their laughing at those choices if they so choose, but in return for
>>> their amusement, I also expect them to make sure I can get to that
>>> deli and buy what I want without dying en route.
>>
>> Then the terrorists have beaten you -- you're afraid of them enough to
>> give up everything.
>>
>
> Yup. Heck youz guyz were willing to fight & die over taxes &
> representation but oooooh some bloke wiv beards are eeewww so scary.
>
>
>>> I'm sure you don't agree, as it appears your "privacy" is more
>>> important than life,
>>
>> Give me liberty or give me death.
>>
>
> Give away your liberty & you may be giving away your life as well
> (dependent upon the whims of the leaders).
>
> I also find it humorous that those who were most in favour of "dealing
> with Saddam" because of his pervasive security apparatus are so in
> favour of it at home.
>
>>> You may see it my way in your own evolution, or not, but there's not
>>> any argument in present time that will change your, or my, mind.
>>
>> Yep, one has decide what to give up, or not.
>>
>
> Nah you have to fight to keep what you have. That's the problem with
> your lawyer/paper monarch combo wrt protecting you, it makes you forget
> that & thus have to rely on the lawyers.
>
> Adam

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