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to: Robert Comer
from: Rich
date: 2006-06-21 11:41:50
subject: Re: PCI hardware ID

From: "Rich" 

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   Must be an issue with the NICs you buy.  I have never had a problem.  =
In any case, any problem is with the hardware.  The hardware identifies =
itself to the OS and anyone else.  Unless the hardware provides a bad ID =
there is no problem.

Rich

  "Robert Comer"  wrote in message =
news:44973abc$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  WinXP *rarely* gets a PCI NIC right...

  --=20
  Bob Comer


  "Rich"  wrote in message news:44971e38{at}w3.nls.net...
     Not correct.  I do expect a PC to automatically detect any off the =
shelf=20
  adapter that is plugged in.  I do not expect that all drivers will be=20
  automatically available but that is a distinct issue from recognizing =
the=20
  hardware.  If I have a device without a driver Windows can still tell =
me=20
  exactly what that device is.  Windows will offer to automatically =
search for=20
  the driver if it is not available and for me often finds those =
drivers.  If=20
  the hardware vendors choose they can have their drivers made available =
that=20
  way.

  Rich

    "Don Hills"  wrote in message=20
  news:zY5kEtgaX2wD092yn{at}attglobal.net...
    In article , "Rich"  wrote:
    >   You don't expect a mainframe to automatically detect any off the
    >shelf adapter that is plugged in.  The PC could go back to the dark =
ages
    >too as this is how things used to be when the PC first came to be.

    You don't expect a PC to automatically detect any off the shelf =
adapter=20
  that
    is plugged in, either. A device driver has to be present that will=20
  recognise
    the adapter's ID or that the adapter is plug compatible with =
another. OS/2
    and Windows 9x have device drivers that recognise plug compatible=20
  adapters.
    The c.s.i.p.h folks are currently running tests using the Windows 9x =
Spock
    SCSI driver for the dozen or so plug compatible Micro Channel SCSI=20
  adapters
    from various manufacturers that are known to exist.

    --=20
    Don Hills=20


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   Must be
an issue with the =
NICs you=20
buy.  I have never had a problem.  In any case, any
problem is = with=20
the hardware.  The hardware identifies itself to the OS and
anyone=20 else.  Unless the hardware provides a bad ID there is
no=20 problem.
 
Rich
 

  "Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>
= wrote in=20
  message news:44973abc$1{at}w3.nls.net...WinXP=20
  *rarely* gets a PCI NIC right...-- Bob =
Comer"Rich"=20
  <{at}> wrote in message news:44971e38{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p; =20
  Not correct.  I do expect a PC to automatically detect any off =
the shelf=20
  adapter that is plugged in.  I do not expect that all drivers =
will be=20
  automatically available but that is a distinct issue from =
recognizing the=20
  hardware.  If I have a device without a driver Windows can =
still tell=20
  me exactly what that device is.  Windows will offer to =
automatically=20
  search for the driver if it is not available and for me often =
finds those=20
  drivers.  If the hardware vendors choose they can have their =
drivers=20
  made available that
way.Rich 
"Don Hills" =
<black.hole.4.spam{at}gmail.commailto:black.hole.4.spam{at}gmail.com">black.hole.4.spam{at}gmail.com
A>>=20
  wrote in message news:zY5kEtgaX2wD092yn{at}attg=
lobal.net... =20
  In article <4493558b$1{at}w3.nls.net>,">mailto:4493558b$1{at}w3.nls.net">4493558b$1{at}w3.nls.net>,
=
"Rich"=20
  <{at}> wrote:  >  
You don't expect a =
mainframe to=20
  automatically detect any off the  >shelf
adapter that is =
plugged=20
  in.  The PC could go back to the dark ages 
>too as =
this is=20
  how things used to be when the PC first came to
be.  You =
don't=20
  expect a PC to automatically detect any off the shelf adapter=20
  that  is plugged in, either. A device driver
has to be =
present=20
  that will recognise  the adapter's ID or
that the adapter =
is plug=20
  compatible with another. OS/2  and Windows 9x have device =
drivers=20
  that recognise plug compatible adapters. 
The c.s.i.p.h =
folks are=20
  currently running tests using the Windows 9x Spock  SCSI =
driver for=20
  the dozen or so plug compatible Micro Channel SCSI =
adapters  from=20
  various manufacturers that are known to exist.  -- =
  Don=20
  Hills 

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