From: "Robert Comer" 

Or better yet, not use Windows update to download drivers. ;-)

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Bob Comer





"Rich"  wrote in message news:4499974e{at}w3.nls.net...
   I've only seen it with Nvidia adapters.  Never with NICs and never with
audio.  You should buy better NICs if you are seeing this problem.

Rich

  "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
news:4499965e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  No, the only time I have a problem with it is when Windows update installs
  the wrong driver...  (I've seen it with NIC's, audio and video cards...)

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  Bob Comer





  "Rich"  wrote in message news:449995a9{at}w3.nls.net...
     Incomplete, absolutely.  Only devices with drivers available have IDs
  known.  An ID that is unknown is still one that is identified.  Are you
just
  complaining that Windows and/or Windows Update do not have drivers for all
  devices that exist in the world?  Of course they don't.

  Rich

    "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
  news:4499947b{at}w3.nls.net...
    >   Must be an issue with the NICs you buy.

    Nope, the only one I've ever seen it identify correctly is the Intel/Dec
    11240 type. (older than the hills in other words)

    >I have never had a problem.  In any case, any problem is with the
  hardware.
    >The >hardware identifies itself to the OS and anyone else.  Unless the
    >hardware >provides a bad ID there is no problem.

    Or the OS has in incomplete/incorrect list to match up to...

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    Bob Comer





    "Rich"  wrote in message news:44999326$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       Must be an issue with the NICs you buy.  I have never had a problem.
  In
    any case, any problem is with the hardware.  The hardware identifies
  itself
    to the OS and anyone else.  Unless the hardware provides a bad ID there
is
    no problem.

    Rich

      "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
    news:44973abc$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      WinXP *rarely* gets a PCI NIC right...

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      Bob Comer


      "Rich"  wrote in message news:44971e38{at}w3.nls.net...
         Not correct.  I do expect a PC to automatically detect any off the
    shelf
      adapter that is plugged in.  I do not expect that all drivers will be
      automatically available but that is a distinct issue from recognizing
  the
      hardware.  If I have a device without a driver Windows can still tell
me
      exactly what that device is.  Windows will offer to automatically
search
    for
      the driver if it is not available and for me often finds those
drivers.
    If
      the hardware vendors choose they can have their drivers made available
    that
      way.

      Rich

        "Don Hills"  wrote in message
      news:zY5kEtgaX2wD092yn{at}attglobal.net...
        In article , "Rich"  wrote:
        >   You don't expect a mainframe to automatically detect any off the
        >shelf adapter that is plugged in.  The PC could go back to the dark
    ages
        >too as this is how things used to be when the PC first came to be.

        You don't expect a PC to automatically detect any off the shelf
  adapter
      that
        is plugged in, either. A device driver has to be present that will
      recognise
        the adapter's ID or that the adapter is plug compatible with
another.
    OS/2
        and Windows 9x have device drivers that recognise plug compatible
      adapters.
        The c.s.i.p.h folks are currently running tests using the Windows 9x
    Spock
        SCSI driver for the dozen or so plug compatible Micro Channel SCSI
      adapters
        from various manufacturers that are known to exist.

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        Don Hills

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