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   Smartphones do not have anywhere near the I/O perf and capacity of =
PCs even those few years old.  Sure I can add a memory card to my phone =
but I could add slow memory to PCs from years ago.  My PC of several =
years back had a terrabyte of storage.  Phones are nowhere close.  RAM = of
a phone, not flash storage, is low and usually in the tens or if = lucky
the hundreds of megabytes not gigabytes.  Display size of phones = is tiny.
 Human interface input limited though because perf is not an = issue you
can use a bluetooth PC keyboard with some phones such as mine.

   All in all, a phone makes a crappy PC.  I very much like my =
smartphone and it is good at what it does.  It doesn't do what a PC does =
nor is it as good as a PC for many of the things the phone can do like =
email and web access.

   I'll believe you believe your nonsense when you get rid of all the =
PCs you and your family have at home and use only your phones.

Rich

  "Ad"  wrote in message =
news:46528664$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  Rich wrote:

  >    My dumb=20
  remote control that came with my TV has a general purpose
  > CPU.  Is that a PC too?  I think not.  Form factor makes a =
significant=20
  > difference just like I/O capability and capacity.
  > =20

  Indeed & now smartphones are getting the IO & capacity of PC'es of =
only=20
  a few years ago & then you oddly didn't have a problem with calling=20
  machines of that capacity PC'es.

  How odd.

  Gee my phone has 2gb persistent storage. It took years & years of PC=20
  ownership before I got a machine with 2gb of persistent storage.

  Adam


  > Rich
  > =20
  >=20
  >     "Ad"      > wrote in =
message
  >     news:46516530{at}w3.nls.net...
  >     Rich wrote:
  >      >    You made comparison on CPU power which you edited out of =
this
  >     message
  >      > maybe to hide that.
  >=20
  >     Rubbish. I just dislike massive quotebacks as most people assume =
that
  >     threading is there for that vs having the entire thread in each =
post.
  >=20
  >     I did make a comparison on CPU power but CPU power is not what =
makes a
  >     mainframe where instead it's stuff like IO etc.
  >=20
  >     I'd hate to assume you know something as basic as that though =
however
  >     one wonders why you used a mainframe if you were simply talking =
about
  >     CPU power.
  >=20
  >      > That comparison is bogus just as much for PCs as it
  >      > is for mainframes.
  >      >
  >=20
  >     Rubbish. A GPCPU is a GPCPU. The form factor changes nothing.
  >=20
  >     Do you have a CPU, RAM & persistent storage? If so what is the =
speed of
  >     the system as a whole?
  >=20
  >=20
  >=20
  >      >    Now you are trying to make a silly comparison over how or =
when
  >     folks
  >      > use the term "computer".  To point out how silly
this is, I =
have
  >     been
  >      > told that my personal car has a number of
"computers" in it.  =
What
  >      > rediculous claims do you want to make about that?
  >      >=20
  >=20
  >     Depends on what they do. I have a friend who has installed a
  >     computer in
  >     his car which plays films, MP3 etc. I believe it's a small cold =
running
  >     via cpu based device & currently runs linux but could run an =
obscure
  >     operating system called "Windows" & is accessed
through either a
  >     touchscreen &/or a bluetooth keyboard.
  >=20
  >=20
  >     I suppose that since it can run "Windows" it should be =
discounted as
  >     being a computer & instead be classified as an "entertainment
  >     device" or
  >     possibly "electronic toy".
  >=20
  >=20
  >     Adam
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Smartphones do not have =
anywhere near=20
the I/O perf and capacity of PCs even those few years
old.  = Sure I can=20
add a memory card to my phone but I could add slow memory to PCs from = years=20
ago.  My PC of several years back had a terrabyte of
storage.  = Phones=20
are nowhere close.  RAM of a phone, not flash storage, is low and
= usually=20
in the tens or if lucky the hundreds of megabytes not gigabytes. 
= Display=20
size of phones is tiny.  Human interface input limited though =
because perf=20
is not an issue you can use a bluetooth PC keyboard with some phones = such as=20
mine.
 
   All in
all, a phone makes =
a crappy=20
PC.  I very much like my smartphone and it is good at what it =
does. =20
It doesn't do what a PC does nor is it as good as a PC for many of the = things=20
the phone can do like email and web access.
 
   I'll
believe you believe =
your nonsense=20
when you get rid of all the PCs you and your family have at home and use = only=20
your phones.
 
Rich
 

  "Ad" <Dobbin{at}theStablesC=">mailto:Dobbin{at}theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com">Dobbin{at}theStablesC=
loseToTheAirport.com>=20
  wrote in message news:46528664$1{at}w3.nls.net...Rich=20
  wrote:>    My dumb
remote control that =
came with=20
  my TV has a general purpose> CPU.  Is that a PC
too?  =
I think=20
  not.  Form factor makes a significant > difference just =
like I/O=20
  capability and capacity.> 
Indeed & now =
smartphones=20
  are getting the IO & capacity of PC'es of only a few years ago =
&=20
  then you oddly didn't have a problem with calling machines of that =

  capacity PC'es.How odd.Gee my
phone has 2gb persistent =

  storage. It took years & years of PC ownership before I got a =
machine=20
  with 2gb of persistent
storage.Adam> =
Rich> =20
  >
>     "Ad"
<Dobbin{at}theStablesC=">mailto:Dobbin{at}theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com">Dobbin{at}theStablesC=
loseToTheAirport.com>    =20
  <mailto:Dobbin{at}theS=">mailto:Dobbin{at}theStablesCloseToTheAirport.com">mailto:Dobbin{at}theS=
tablesCloseToTheAirport.com>>=20
  wrote in message>     news:46516530{at}w3.nls.net...>=
    =20
  Rich wrote:>      =
>    You=20
  made comparison on CPU power which you edited out of=20
  this>    =20
 
message>     
> maybe to hide =
that.>=20
  >     Rubbish. I
just dislike massive =
quotebacks as=20
  most people assume
that>     threading is
=
there for=20
  that vs having the entire thread in each post.>=20
  >     I did make a
comparison on CPU power =
but CPU=20
  power is not what makes
a>     mainframe =
where=20
  instead it's stuff like IO etc.> =
>     I'd=20
  hate to assume you know something as basic as that though=20
  however>     one
wonders why you used a =
mainframe=20
  if you were simply talking
about>     CPU=20
  power.>
>     
> That =
comparison is=20
  bogus just as much for PCs as
it>      =
> is=20
  for
mainframes.>     
>>=20
  >     Rubbish. A
GPCPU is a GPCPU. The form =
factor=20
  changes nothing.>
>     Do you have =
a CPU,=20
  RAM & persistent storage? If so what is the speed=20
  of>     the system
as a whole?> =
>=20
  >
>     
>    =
Now you=20
  are trying to make a silly comparison over how or=20
  when>    =20
  folks>     
> use the term=20
  "computer".  To point out how silly this is, I=20
  have>    =20
  been>     
> told that my personal =
car has=20
  a number of "computers" in it. =20
  What>     
> rediculous claims do =
you want=20
  to make about
that?>     
> =
>=20
  >     Depends on
what they do. I have a =
friend who=20
  has installed a>    
computer=20
  in>     his car
which plays films, MP3 etc. =
I=20
  believe it's a small cold
running>     via =
cpu=20
  based device & currently runs linux but could run an=20
  obscure>    
operating system called =
"Windows"=20
  & is accessed through either
a>     =
touchscreen=20
  &/or a bluetooth keyboard.> >=20
  >     I suppose that
since it can run =
"Windows" it=20
  should be discounted
as>     being a =
computer &=20
  instead be classified as an =
"entertainment>    =20
  device" or>    
possibly "electronic =
toy".>=20
  > >     =
Adam

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