Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 16:13:09 -0400
From: TOM LEBENS
To: MICHAEL PURDY
Subject: Re: POP3 Login Problem
Newsgroups: win.server.program
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Thanks! I will give it a try, and post here what I find out.

On 9/30/2016 6:51 PM, MICHAEL PURDY wrote to TOM LEBENS:

-> Tom
-> 
-> Historically the only time something similar popped up was around the time 
-> [Enable Case Sensitive User Passwords] was introduced.
-> 
->   wcconfig - System Security - Enable Case Sensitive User Passwords
-> 
-> The issue surrounded the mechanism for setting / changing user passwords
-> versus actually checking them.
-> 
-> Even if you have not enabled case sensitive passwords I would check to see
-> whether entering the POP3 password in ALL Uppercase helps (if you have not
-> tried this yet)
-> 
-> Mike
-> 
-> 
-> 
-> 
-> On 9/30/2016 12:18 PM, TOM LEBENS wrote to HECTOR SANTOS:
-> 
-> -> Here's the latest:
-> -> 
-> -> I created a new account (using wcLogin, and the sysop user menu). The new
-> -> account logs in fine with POP3 and SMTP. I cannot log in with the new
-> -> account using the web -- says it's a bad password.
-> -> 
-> -> If I change the password on the new account. I CAN log in through the
web,
-> -> and SMTP, but POP3 says it's a bad password.
-> -> 
-> -> So, I deleted the new account, and created it again. Again, it works with
-> -> POP3 and SMTP, and not the web. 
-> -> 
-> -> I renamed the old account, and renamed the new account to my name
under the
-> -> old account. I am not getting email through POP3 and sending through
SMTP.
-> -> 
-> -> The old account still has three days with of old email in it, so I
have not
-> -> lost the email, which is good. The old account allows me to log in
through
-> -> web and SMTP (and send email), but I cannot connect POP3 (I get that
error
-> -> indicating a bad login).
-> -> 
-> -> I can only guess as to what might be causing this problem, but it is
-> -> repeatable.
-> -> 
-> -> (Of note: NONE of my user accounts can log in via web unless their
-> -> passwords are changed. I am afraid to change the passwords, as that
appears
-> -> to break POP3, with the only work-around I have found being to create
a new
-> -> account -- but that breaks web again.)
-> -> 
-> -> Let me know if there is any additional information I can provide, but at
-> -> least it appears that I can reliably replicate the problem.
Unfortunately,
-> -> my server is not really functional until I can figure out the root cause.
-> -> 
-> -> Oh, one other thing of note, and I don't know that it is related: when I
-> -> run AUP, it breaks wcReports. I get an error that wcvr.dll is not found.
-> -> But, it is there in the c:\wc5 directory. When I back wcReports to the
-> -> prior version from the backup directory, it works again.
-> -> 
-> -> On 9/29/2016 11:46 AM, TOM LEBENS wrote to TOM LEBENS:
-> -> 
-> -> -> I worked on this again last night. As a test, I created a
new account
-> with
-> -> -> the same credentials. With that new account, I was able to access
via the
-> -> -> web, and SMTP, but was not able to access via POP3. All of the old
-> accounts
-> -> -> seem to work fine. I am afraid to change passwords on the old
accounts,
-> -> -> though, as that seems to have been what triggered the problem. 
-> -> -> 
-> -> -> On 9/28/2016 7:52 PM, TOM LEBENS wrote to TOM LEBENS:
-> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> I have also tested this behavior from a different
client machine,
-> -> running a
-> -> -> -> different version of Outlook (not just a different
copy, one is
-> Outlook
-> -> -> -> 2010 and the other is Outlook 2013, I believe). The result is
-> identical.
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> On 9/28/2016 7:44 PM, TOM LEBENS wrote to TOM LEBENS:
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> I should mention that I also tried changing
the password (to a
-> simple
-> -> -> -> -> dictionary word), and got the same result.
-> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> Here are the screen shots from my email configuration:
-> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> ->
http://www.evernote.com/l/ACZIMPngyV9E1rieeXXGKSCRKKae9dot02w/
-> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> As you can see, I have "Use same
settings as my incoming mail
-> -> sever" set.
-> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> I have also including a screen shot showing
the result of the
-> test of
-> -> -> these
-> -> -> -> -> settings, and showing that the SMTP test is
passed, but the
-> POP3 test
-> -> -> fails.
-> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> Thanks for taking a look at this. I have been
working on
trying to
-> -> solve
-> -> -> -> -> this for a day now, and have made no headway.
-> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> On 9/28/2016 7:23 PM, TOM LEBENS wrote to
HECTOR SANTOS:
-> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> -> I the email client literally uses the
exact same password
field
-> -> -> for POP3
-> -> -> -> -> -> and SMTP. SMTP works. POP3 does not. I
have copied the
password
-> -> -> from my
-> -> -> -> -> -> password manager, I have manually typed
the password, I have
-> tried
-> -> -> -> creating
-> -> -> -> -> -> the account from scratch. I get exactly
the same result each
-> time.
-> -> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> -> On 9/28/2016 7:05 PM, HECTOR SANTOS
wrote to TOM LEBENS:
-> -> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> Hi Tom,
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> The error number 20000005 shown:
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> -> ->    09:26:16 S: -ERR User tom
lebens cannot log in,
-> -> authorization 
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> failed (ERR: 20000005)
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> means INCORRECT PASSWORD.   Thats
want it means. 
Check the
-> -> -> password 
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> setting for your POP3 Mail client.
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> -- 
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> Hector, Engineering & Technical Support
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> Santronics Software, Inc.
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> http://www.santronics.com (sales)
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> http://www.winserver.com (support)
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> http://www.winserver.com/AupInfo
(Online AUP Help)
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> Office: 305-248-3204
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> On 9/28/2016 6:53 PM, TOM LEBENS wrote:
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > I have an account (my own)
that will not log in POP3. It
-> -> -> works fine
-> -> -> -> -> -> through
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > the web interface, and can
even send email through
the SMTP
-> -> -> server
-> -> -> -> -> using
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > Outlook and the identical
credentials (literally, i.e.,
-> SMTP
-> -> -> is set
-> -> -> -> -> to use
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > the POP3 login credential).
But, attempts to log in
through
-> -> -> POP3 are
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > rejected. All other POP3
users are able to log in
-> (including
-> -> -> other
-> -> -> -> -> -> accounts
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > in the same copy of Outlook
on the same client machine).
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> >
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > Here is a snip of my log
files showing the unsuccessful
-> login
-> -> -> -> attempt:
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> >
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> >
-> -> -> -> ->
-> -> ->
-> **************************************************************************
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > Wildcat! POP3 Server v7.0.454.5
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > POP3 Log started at Wed, 28
Sep 2016  09:26:14
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > Client IP: unknown (38.195.34.170:110)
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:14 S: +OK Wildcat!
POP3 Server v7.0.454.5 ready
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> >

-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:14 C: CAPA
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:14 S: +OK Capability
list follows
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:14 S: TOP
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:14 S: UIDL
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:14 S: USER
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:14 S: SASL CRAM-MD5
DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:14 ** IsSecure(): 0
SSLCapable: 0 SSLReady: 0
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:14 S: IMPLEMENTATION
Wildcat! POP3 Server
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:14 S: .
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:15 C: CAPA
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:15 S: +OK Capability
list follows
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:15 S: TOP
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:15 S: UIDL
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:15 S: USER
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:15 S: SASL CRAM-MD5
DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:15 ** IsSecure(): 0
SSLCapable: 0 SSLReady: 0
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:15 S: IMPLEMENTATION
Wildcat! POP3 Server
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:15 S: .
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:15 C: USER tom.lebens
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:15 S: +OK
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:15 C: PASS *****************
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 09:26:16 S: -ERR User tom
lebens cannot log in,
-> authorization
-> -> -> -> -> failed (ERR:
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> > 20000005).
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> >
-> -> -> -> -> -> -> 
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