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From: "Geo."
"John Cuccia" wrote in message
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> You need to log onto every server to do that. If you have more than a
> dozen or so servers that becomes unwieldy. Loading large patches
> across WAN links can be quite time-consuming, too.
Yes, it takes a lot of time to do it manually (I have lots more than a
dozen machines that get patched) and yes I have to log to each box with
pcanywhere. But the update process is quick. If there are 5 new patches I
can update a server in less than 5 minutes. Service packs take longer to
transfer across the network but the patches are quick.
> What downtime issues? If a patch is going to break a server, it
> doesn't matter if you run it by hand or using an automated process,
> no?
Downtime as in the time required to reboot the machine. You would not
believe how many customers can call in during the 2 minutes it takes to
reboot a major mail or login db server. Those types of machines may wait an
extra day in order to hit a low usage time. You really have to play it by
ear, backup needs to run first then you need to update and it all depends
on when a patch is released as to the timing.
> My point was this: a single download point in no way implies that
> there is a coherent design/test program for those pieces.
Yes, that's why they call them hotfixes . If you want tested code
then you wait for the service packs but that might mean you are exposed to
the exploits for up to a year. That may not be acceptable in some setups.
Geo.
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