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from: MICHAEL PURDY
date: 2019-01-31 19:12:12
subject: RE: Windows 10

Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 21:05:17 -0400
From: MICHAEL PURDY
To: CRAIG STRUTT
Subject: RE: Windows 10
Newsgroups: win.server.program
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Craig

Short Answer

Wildcat is an SSI product and Hector has previously said that he prefers
people to contact him directly so ˙he˙ knows about potential problems.  I
think this is important given that SSI will need to deal with an increasing
number of W10 users over the next 12 months.  So my recommendation would be
to contact him directly.  The other option would be to post in the BETA
Winserver List that he does read.

Long Answer

DBGVIEW receives some output from the Windows OS but most comes from output
sent to the Debug Stream by third party developers.  You can read about the
Output Stream here:

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa363362(v=vs.85).aspx

The main thing to keep in mind is that if the developer does not send any
debug output to the stream then you will not see anything and consequently
DBGVIEW is of little value.  A couple of reasons for using the debug stream
are to reduce the overhead of sending debug information to STDOUT such as
File or the Console and to avoid frightening end users etc.

Fault tolerant heap shim

This normally means a program has crashed e.g.:

1. It completely died and bailed
2. Its has become unresponsive
3. It exited abnormally on program stop.

The most common cause is problems with memory management in the application
or incompatibility problems.  There are several other causes that need to
be investigated by the developer on a case-by-case basis.  I encountered a
lot when I first moved to Win7.

The shim will allow a crash prone application to run, but the associated
registry shim entries are often lost especially after reboot.  Basically
you don˙t want shim errors.

Troubleshooting

Q. Have you set wcStart.exe and wcMail.exe to Run As Administrator

Q. Have you navigated to the Wildcat root folder and Right Clicked on
wcStart / wcMail and Run the Troubleshoot Compatibility Option and saved
the suggested compatibility settings?  This will tell you if W10 considers
the Applications are Incompatible!

Addition Troubleshooting Information

I have a utility called wcdiag.exe that when run at the CLI

 wcdiag /t

will produce a log called wcdiag-trouble.log this along with the DBGVIEW
log may / may not be of help to HS/SSI  You can download it here:

http://wcstatus.mapurdy.com.au/downloads/downloads.wct

If you wish to touch base with me again then send me an IM to either:

Gtalk: mapurdy.com.au or
Skype: mike_purdy. 

I don˙t login here now as much as I once did.

Mike
   
 
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