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to: Gary Britt
from: Rich
date: 2006-06-29 01:02:44
subject: Re: Productize

From: "Rich" 

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   Commercializing and productizing are not the same.  The English =
language has lots of words with similar or overlapping but distinct = meanings.

Rich

  "Gary Britt"  wrote in message =
news:44a308b4$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  Commercializing would be the correct term and the term that has been =
in wide use for decades.  For example, phrases such as the "right to =
commercialize derivative works" of a copyrighted product have existed
= for many decades.  Productizing is non-standard usage that would seem to
= me was created by people who are less verbal than they needed to be.  =
Whether the term was created at or is used at places other than = Microsoft
is of no concern.  Anyone who uses the term anywhere is using =
non-standard english that a more verbal and more educated person would =
certainly avoid. =20

  Just because literate people might understand what a speaker means =
when they say "our product is 'more gooder' than the competition"
= doesn't make it proper usage.  Therefore, I find your argument that the =
meaning and intent of a speaker who uses "productizing" is
discernable = to the listener is not a credible defense of its usage.

  Gary
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:44a2e7a9{at}w3.nls.net...
       I have no spin.  I can say that productizing as a verb is not =
double speak.  It gets used all the time to describe taking a = technology,
prototype, internal tool, etc and making it or incorporating = it into a
product.  To someone who speaks English you would think the = meaning would
be clear.  I very much doubt it is a Microsoft term.  I'm = sure it is
widely used.

    Rich

      "Adam"
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge"> =
wrote in message news:44a043f0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      Mike N. wrote:
      > On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:41:53 -0400, "Rich Gauszka" =

      > wrote:
      >=20
      >> "With most of our effort now working towards productizing =
mature aspects of the=20
      >> WinFS project into SQL and ADO.NET, we do not need to deliver a =
separate=20
      >> WinFS offering."
      >=20
      >   "productizing" - adv (English): Special word to introduce =
doublespeak and
      > make it sound like you are saying something significant when you =
wish avoid
      > the real subject because you are not comfortable talking about =
it.

      I will be curious to see Rich S's spin on this.

      Adam
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Commercializing and =
productizing are=20
not the same.  The English language has lots of words with similar = or=20
overlapping but distinct meanings.
 
Rich
 
"Gary Britt" <glb{at}gencog.com>=20">mailto:glb{at}gencog.com">glb{at}gencog.com>=20 wrote in message news:44a308b4$1{at}w3.nls.net... Commercializing would be the correct term and = the term=20 that has been in wide use for decades. For example, phrases such = as the=20 "right to commercialize derivative works" of a copyrighted product = have=20 existed for many decades. Productizing is non-standard = usage that=20 would seem to me was created by people who are less verbal than they = needed to=20 be. Whether the term was created at or is used at places other = than=20 Microsoft is of no concern. Anyone who uses the term anywhere is = using=20 non-standard english that a more verbal and more educated person would = certainly avoid. Just because literate people might understand = what a=20 speaker means when they say "our product is 'more gooder' than the=20 competition" doesn't make it proper usage. Therefore, I find = your=20 argument that the meaning and intent of a speaker who=20 uses "productizing" is discernable to the listener is = not a=20 credible defense of its usage. Gary
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:44a2e7a9{at}w3.nls.net... I have no spin. = I can say=20 that productizing as a verb is not double speak. It gets used = all the=20 time to describe taking a technology, prototype, internal tool, etc = and=20 making it or incorporating it into a product. To someone who = speaks=20 English you would think the meaning would be clear. I very = much doubt=20 it is a Microsoft term. I'm sure it is widely = used. Rich "Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemole=">mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the'>"4thwormcastfromthemole= hill\"{at}the=20 field.near the bridge"> wrote in message news:44a043f0$1{at}w3.nls.net...Mike=20 N. wrote:> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:41:53 -0400, "Rich = Gauszka"=20 <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>>=20">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com>>=20 wrote:> >> "With most of our effort now working = towards=20 productizing mature aspects of the >> WinFS project into = SQL and=20 ADO.NET, we do not need to deliver a separate >> WinFS=20 offering."> > "productizing" - adv = (English):=20 Special word to introduce doublespeak and> make it sound = like you=20 are saying something significant when you wish avoid> the = real=20 subject because you are not comfortable talking about it.I = will be=20 curious to see Rich S's spin on=20 this.Adam ------=_NextPart_000_03CA_01C69B17.BAD2FB60-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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