From: "Rich Gauszka" 

Sorry, I missed that last sentence about how you weren't sure how Parallels works.

FWIW  I'm also waiting for a VMware product for the Intel Mac. While
Parallels fulfills my basic needs with W2k and the mac mini, I like the
VMware products and some part of me would feel more comfortable using them
across the OS base of Windows, Linux and OSx



"Robert Comer"  wrote in message
news:44a6adf4{at}w3.nls.net...
>I know that, that's why I said I didn't know how Parallels ran. (but do
>know how Codeweavers does their stuff.)
>
>> What distinguishes the Parallels system is its use of Intel's
>> Virtualization Technology (VT), built into new Macs running the Intel
>> Core Duo.
>
> I had heard that they used VT, which is excellent, I just don't know how
> far along on everything else they are.
>
> I'm very much aware of what VT can do, I'm the one that's been pushing it
> around here, and everywhere else for that matter. (I even know how it
> works. )  And fwiw, just VT isn't enough to get near native speeds for
> most normal stuff like OS's...
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> news:44a6a4f5{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Parallels and Codeweaver are two separate products. My W2k VM in
>> Parallels isn't sluggish at all on a dual-core mac mini
>>
>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;1525701888;fp;2;fpid;1
>>
>> What distinguishes the Parallels system is its use of Intel's
>> Virtualization Technology (VT), built into new Macs running the Intel
>> Core Duo. VT allows software called a hypervisor to create multiple
>> operating system instances that all have direct, simultaneous access to
>> the hardware, theoretically allowing virtualised software to run at
>> near-native speeds.
>>
>>
>> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
>> news:44a6a235$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> That's based on the Linux based "emulator" by
Codeweavers.  I really
>>> wouldn't put it in the emulator or virtualization camp, it's pretty
>>> basic and limited in what it can run.  Think of how Wine runs in Linux
>>> and you get the picture.  Personally, I wouldn't bother with this one
>>> and go for something like VMWare when it comes out. (I don't know how
>>> the Parallels product works.)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>> "/m"  wrote in message
>>> news:b81da2linua6oh97t7gfs2qoep8unoajkd{at}4ax.com...
>>>> btw, just stumbled across this:
>>>> http://www.macwindows.com/#630b
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 10:03:40 -0400, "Rich
Gauszka" 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Parallels has worked well for me with 2K but my needs
for 2k are quite
>>>>>simple on the mini.
>>>>>
>>>>>They have a good support forum at
>>>>>
>>>>>http://forum.parallels.com/index.php
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm still waiting for the rumored VMware though as I have several
>>>>>canned
>>>>>apps that I'd like to transfer and VMware also quite a few
>>>>>preconfigured
>>>>>apps for the dl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"/m"  wrote in message
>>>>>news:gutca2prv714ndikckvomh7sdsv0got89c{at}4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How's Parallels working for you?  I also equipped
my Mac mini worth
>>>>>> 2Gb,
>>>>>> planning to use VMs.   I'd like to get this bulky
Windows off my
>>>>>> desktop...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  /m
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 08:58:11 -0400, "Rich Gauszka"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>George,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep,  I have a Mac Mini in the living room for
use as a media pc. I
>>>>>>>configured mine with 2GB of RAM though as I'm
using the Parallels
>>>>>>>virtual
>>>>>>>software  ( www.parallels.com ) to run Win 2k
in place of using the
>>>>>>>Apple
>>>>>>>dual boot XP/wga stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In use the mini's worked quite well but I had
had problems with the
>>>>>>>scheduling of sleep mode ( doesn't always work
for me) so now I just
>>>>>>>schedule a daily power off/on cycle ( never
fails ). I have had
>>>>>>>several
>>>>>>>hangs when I had the mini set to turn my plasma
display off after
>>>>>>>several
>>>>>>>hours of idle time ( it would never wake the
display up again ) so I
>>>>>>>avoid
>>>>>>>that now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm using the Apple wireless keyboard but
ditched the Apple wireless
>>>>>>>mouse
>>>>>>>for Logitech 2-button ( makes life easier )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Apple just released the 10.4.7 software update
which I applied last
>>>>>>>night
>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>maybe the sleep/saver glitches are gone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As a Mac neophyte I found the O'Reilly book
'Switching to the Mac
>>>>>>>Tiger
>>>>>>>Edition' by Progue and Goldstein quite useful
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I had some problems finding a usable
'universal'/intel AC3 codec and
>>>>>>>finding
>>>>>>>the usable DivX software ( had to use the beta
) but they've just
>>>>>>>announce
>>>>>>>the 'universal' version of 6.5.1 on 6/29 (
haven't tried it yet )
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been using
http://www.versiontracker.com/macosx/  and
>>>>>>>http://www.versiontracker.com/macintel/ to
locate software for the
>>>>>>>mini.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"George Sherwood"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:44a6208c{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>> Rich,
>>>>>>>>    Did I remember correctly that you
recently bought a Mac?  I am
>>>>>>>> seriously moving in that direction and was
wondering what  you
>>>>>>>> purchased
>>>>>>>> and how it has worked?  I was thinking of
the Mac Mini with 1GB RAM
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> 100 GB HardDrive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> George
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:44a55c3b$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>> Tried to go onto the wga forum and received this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your user acount has been banned.
Visit here for more info.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Naturally the link to visit has
nothing to do with the banning
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
http://support.microsoft.com/contactus/?WS=communities
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I reckon they only wish happy news
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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