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from: Gary Britt
date: 2006-06-28 18:54:04
subject: Re: WinFS RIP?

From: "Gary Britt" 

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Commercializing would be the correct term and the term that has been in =
wide use for decades.  For example, phrases such as the "right to =
commercialize derivative works" of a copyrighted product have existed
= for many decades.  Productizing is non-standard usage that would seem to
= me was created by people who are less verbal than they needed to be.  =
Whether the term was created at or is used at places other than = Microsoft
is of no concern.  Anyone who uses the term anywhere is using =
non-standard english that a more verbal and more educated person would =
certainly avoid. =20

Just because literate people might understand what a speaker means when =
they say "our product is 'more gooder' than the competition"
doesn't = make it proper usage.  Therefore, I find your argument that the
meaning = and intent of a speaker who uses "productizing" is
discernable to the = listener is not a credible defense of its usage.

Gary
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:44a2e7a9{at}w3.nls.net...
     I have no spin.  I can say that productizing as a verb is not =
double speak.  It gets used all the time to describe taking a = technology,
prototype, internal tool, etc and making it or incorporating = it into a
product.  To someone who speaks English you would think the = meaning would
be clear.  I very much doubt it is a Microsoft term.  I'm = sure it is
widely used.

  Rich

    "Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
field.near the bridge"> =
wrote in message news:44a043f0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    Mike N. wrote:
    > On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:41:53 -0400, "Rich Gauszka" =

    > wrote:
    >=20
    >> "With most of our effort now working towards productizing mature =
aspects of the=20
    >> WinFS project into SQL and ADO.NET, we do not need to deliver a =
separate=20
    >> WinFS offering."
    >=20
    >   "productizing" - adv (English): Special word to introduce =
doublespeak and
    > make it sound like you are saying something significant when you =
wish avoid
    > the real subject because you are not comfortable talking about it.

    I will be curious to see Rich S's spin on this.

    Adam
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Commercializing would be the correct term and =
the term=20
that has been in wide use for decades.  For example, phrases such
= as the=20
"right to commercialize derivative works" of a copyrighted
product have = existed=20
for many decades.  Productizing is non-standard usage
that = would seem=20
to me was created by people who are less verbal than they needed to =
be. =20
Whether the term was created at or is used at places other than = Microsoft is of=20
no concern.  Anyone who uses the term anywhere is using = non-standard=20
english that a more verbal and more educated person would certainly =
avoid. =20

 
Just because literate people might understand =
what a=20
speaker means when they say "our product is 'more gooder' than the =
competition"=20
doesn't make it proper usage.  Therefore, I find your argument that = the=20
meaning and intent of a speaker who =
uses "productizing" is=20
discernable to the listener is not a credible defense of its=20
usage.
 
Gary
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:44a2e7a9{at}w3.nls.net... I have no spin. I = can say that=20 productizing as a verb is not double speak. It gets used all the = time to=20 describe taking a technology, prototype, internal tool, etc and making = it or=20 incorporating it into a product. To someone who speaks English = you would=20 think the meaning would be clear. I very much doubt it is a = Microsoft=20 term. I'm sure it is widely used. Rich "Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemole=">mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the'>"4thwormcastfromthemole= hill\"{at}the=20 field.near the bridge"> wrote in message news:44a043f0$1{at}w3.nls.net...Mike=20 N. wrote:> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:41:53 -0400, "Rich Gauszka" = <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>>=20">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com>>=20 wrote:> >> "With most of our effort now working = towards=20 productizing mature aspects of the >> WinFS project into = SQL and=20 ADO.NET, we do not need to deliver a separate >> WinFS=20 offering."> > "productizing" - adv = (English):=20 Special word to introduce doublespeak and> make it sound like = you are=20 saying something significant when you wish avoid> the real = subject=20 because you are not comfortable talking about it.I will be = curious=20 to see Rich S's spin on=20 this.Adam ------=_NextPart_000_0199_01C69AE4.3AFF7900-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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