Debwhorah Terrerson wrote:
> Turin wrote:
> > Deborah Terreson wrote:
> > > ----------
> > > In article , _TR_
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Terreson wrote:
> > > >>_TR_  wrote:
> > > >>> Deborah Terreson wrote:
> > > >>> _TR_  wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> bluesmama wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Deborah, you are absolutely right,
and I apologize.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Remember what I wrote about your
addiction to hyperbole?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> HEY!!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> This is MY apology - she can make it as
long as she wants
to!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>> You are correct.  The apology was to you, and I
don't pretend
to
> > speak on
> > > >>> your behalf.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I dispute the "apolgoy" for two
reasons, as I stated to Jayne
K:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 1)  She apologised only when a woman called her
to task.  I
am,
> > however,
> > > >>> suprised that she acknowledges you as a woman.  She
overlooked
> > the standard
> > > >>> feminist tactic of accusing you to be a man
simply because
you
> > challenged
> > > >>> her cowshit.  Whether she overlooked the tactic
intentionally
or
> > > >>> accidentally is arguable.  You're quite
familiar with being
the
> > target of
> > > >>> the tactic, aren't you, Ms. Terreson?
> > > >>
> > > >> If Parg wants to think I've got balls, who am I to dissuade
her?
> > Her Big
> > > >> Beef with me, is that I have NEVER denied my feminist roots,
> > > >
> > > > Of course you don't need the likes of me to tell you that
you're
> > entitled
> > > > to call yourself a feminist, Formosan or friendly & forlorn,
but
> > you are so
> > > > entitled.  My problem is that I cannot for the life of me
figure
> > out why a
> > > > self-respecting woman such as you would adopt a monicker that
has
> > come to
> > > > be the Mark of Cain for victimist fools.
> > >
> > > I grew up in a feminist environment, it was perhaps a blessing to
me
> > > personally, that the women around me were all strong and DIDN'T
need
> > to
> > > villify men to get ahead. An anomaly? Probably, but a testimonial
to
> > the
> > > truth that miracles can happen. I like to be the fly in their
> > sanctimonious
> > > victimology ointment. It pisses me off that it has gone to the
level
> > of
> > > depravity it has, precisely because so many women have walked
away
> > from
> > > calling out the man-bashing tendencies in these womyn. How is it
that
> > these
> > > emotional cripples get to be the only voice of feminism? Fuck
them!
> >
> >
> >
> > Yeah yeah.  Debwhorah is your run of the mill feminist.  Her
definition
> > of good feminism is the standard:
>
> Me? Who posted her naked


Some skanky attention whore who was bragging that she would post a lot
more than what she actually did:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.men/msg/a0d09182f86ce4a5


> bouncing


I didn't see any bouncing.  Try making a gif next time.


> big tits


hahaha  ...that B&W angle shot of your floppers must've taken you hours
and days to get just the way you wanted.

I wonder if it's the same one you told me to hunt down from somebody
else.  If not, then that means it took you six months to get everything
covered just right before coming back onto soc.men to coyly announce
that it was ready.


> out here? *LOL*


That is a lol..........


> Not hardly!


Now, Guys.  Notice how Butch Face diverted the subject.

We were talking about masculine women - like her - who have the nerve
to point out alleged effeminacies in Men.

She simply started talking about her tits.


Then, she ducks her "strong women" crap for the rest of her post with
just a lot of, "I was kidding" "..but not really", faux
pas stances and
dodges.


This is completely analogous to the woman who gets herself in trouble
at work (or in other situations) and then switches tactics.

One moment she's the "strong woman" - the assertive woman - who is
engaging in funtime psychological sexist whippings of the Men around
her by stereotyping them in roles she knows they're not allowed to live
up to.  Some guy calls her on it.

Then next, she momentarily submerges her masculine personality to
project sexist femininity.


This is called passive-aggressive.  In order for this tactic to work
for moderates, they have to be able to insist that their opponent be
one dimensional; otherwise, the same game can be played on them, and
they lose the advantage.  That's why you get dyke looking - and acting
- hypocritical feminists like Deborah constantly bitching about whether
some Man is gay.

The hypocrites are pointing fingers at everyone else for not being
hypocrites.

> > She can cross the old gender lines all that she likes, and play in
the
> > so-called man's world using man's behaviors.  (Note how ladylike
she
> > always is).
>
> I have always been ladylike to those who are gentlemanly.


That isn't how it works, Budweiser slut.


> I even have taken
> more than a few flame attack from angry men, and STILL was ladylike,
and
> listened *without* any prejudices and NOT criticized.


Debwhorah, your idea of being ladylike is to press one finger to a
nostril before shooting a snot out of the other onto the sidewalk.


> For you however, anything goes.


Yeah yeah, sleaze.  "Anything goes" is your personality.  You're just
simply used to pussywhipped guys who don't think they are.


> > But men had better not do one thing which could be construed as
> > effeminate by the old sexist standards, or else her type is going
to
> > bash them for it.
>
> Excuse me?
>
> You know Turin, if you spent half as much time time [sic -Turin]
> *reading* what I write,
> instead of jumping into nearly dead threads,


"nearly" "dead threads" ...you gotta love that.


> reading one or two paragraphs
> and spouting off like the blowhard you pass yourself off as, you
might
> actually get it right.


You know, Debwhorah, maybe if you weren't an ass-kissing contemptible
piece of subversive feminist shit - like your fellow plastic liberal,
Tom - then you wouldn't be bragging one year about how much money
you're making through your corporate-felching little union, hightailing
it another to Canada because of an election, and using pathetic
diversion after pathetic diversion to fit in where no one agrees with
you.

But, if you like that, then keep posting pictures of your tits.  I'm
sure there's a few guys around from the I'll-Fuck-Anything Club who
won't let a little thing like Ideas keep them from getting ripped off
tomorrow by your kind.  ...If Phil's not busy drooling to American
Beauty on DVD tonight, then send him a few.


> > It's precisely that celtic trash "strong women"
rationalizing where
the
> > double standard rests.  Men are limited through stereotyping, but
not
> > them.
>
> *LOL* And you're not a stereotype yourself, right? Come ON dude!
Let's play
> the Angry Internet Blowhard, shall we? Call it what you will, at the
end of
> the day, my personality when I'm not online is exactly the same as
what is
> out here. NO bullshit.


I guess, for you, that's a major accomplishment.

Do you think you're pulling the wool over anyone's eyes that you don't
walk in here and do your own blowhard act - with all of your phony
overdone profanity?

Your biggest fear is putting on a yellow dress and having people look
at you like you don't do a thing for the yellow dress.


But, put on some men's clothes, and many plain looking broads can have
whatever femininity they possess accentuated, so that guys will instead
notice the female attributes showing through where there aren't
supposed to be any.   Then, they look and say: "She's not bad".  "I'd
fuck her".

Likewise, with your sailor personality.  I can deal with Tom Boys, who
need their crutches for not being pretty or delicate, but they cross
the line when they start stereotyping Men into corners of conduct,
dress code, and all the rest of that blackmailing shit.


And, as far as this "stereotyping back to you" garbage goes ...you're
just lifting that out of the posts of another loser who brought it on
himself, because that's all the geek does when he argues.

Pointing out stereotyping isn't the same thing as stereotyping itself,
but it is true that those who stereotype usually do so simply because
they themselves choose to live according to stereotypes.  They want the
safety of conformity.  So, it's only pointing out the truth if you do
stereotype them.  If people are going to hide behind cookie cutter
arguments, then they deserve it.

For instance, someone like Jayne Kulikauskas shouldn't be allowed the
slightest deviation from the rule.  If she wants to act like a
mannequin, then she'll be treated like one; and, she will be boxed into
a philosophy which she either is, or isn't, being honest about.


Same goes for people like Society and Mark Sobolewski.

Back in high school, we had a math team which had team shirts like any
other.  Each team member's shirt had a complex mathematical formula on
it, and no two were the same.  Every time you solved one of these
formulas the answer was always the same thing: 1.  This was apparently
meant to signify that their team was #1.

Society and Sobolewski play the same game:  They juggle labels and
ideas in profusion; but, after all of their verbal contortions have
ended, and all of the ideas which were set up to cancel each other out
have been eliminated, you see that they haven't argued a damn thing,
except conformity.

All they want is to avoid getting pigeon-holed by posing as
individualists and brave thinkers of new ideas.  The truth is that they
are mealy-mouthed cowards and dogmatists.  It's probably how each
survives in his little world.


> > > >> yet at the same time, I've never exercised it's current vogue
of
> > singing
> > > >> the Woman Is Perpetual Victim Of Man song. I guess this must
make
> > me a 'bad'
> > > >> feminist,
> > > >
> > > > Oh shit, or dear.  Now you've done it.   I'm trying to resist,
but
> > ....
> > > > trying .... trying ... awww screw it.  Here goes:
> > > >
> > > > The only good feminist is a dead feminist.
> > >
> > > Eh?  ...Wha..?   Who..?
> >
> >
> > What's the matter Deb...?
> >
> >
> > > > Whew, now that feels better.
> > >
> > > Oh come on! At least get a four letter word in - how can you be a
> > good
> > > knuckle-dragging misogynist if you don't cuss?!
> >
> >
> > yeaaaah ...that's better, sister.
> >
> > you gotta teach those guys to stereotype themselves, stick to
> > adjectives, cop those attitudes, and talk that shop or else you
can't
> > get away with pretending to be one of them while not playing the
whole
> > part.
>
> Turin..... I was being SARCASTIC!
>
> Oh Lord...


Spare us, clown.  I got it.  You didn't.


> > ...the secret to power is to label and limit the other class while
> > refusing to allow stereotypes on your own.  I wonder how the
trained
> > Mr. Terreson is liking his new mom and pop shop these days.....
>
> Mr. Terreson? Did my dad get married again?


See...?


> ???
>
> Are you talking about Bob? He's in the other room working on heavy
metal
> licks on the guitar. He's got the next 6-8 weeks off from work,


Gee, What happened to the dream Canadian restaurant?  Was it either
that or aerospace, and aerospace won on the flip of a coin...?


> and is
> spending alot of time now playing and practising his music. Sounds
real
> good.


That's nice.  I'll bet he's real good at paying your bills while you
question the idea of wearing his last name.  ...If he's smart, he'll to
play "=E2=99=AAI'm leaving on a jet plane=E2=99=AA"


> Deb.
> >
> >
> > > >> in her view, OR more likely, a man in disguise!
> > > >
> > > > Yep.  That's pretty much the way I see it.  You've failed to
> > > > indescriminately validate her; therefore, you're guilty of
giving
> > aid and
> > > > comfort to the enemy.
> > > >
> > > >> *LOL* Do you suppose I am victimising her by this?
> > > >
> > > > Is there anything you can't do that wouldn't victimise her?
She
> > is, after

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