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Yes and No.  No they are not the same thing in the sense that one =
(commercialize) is acceptable and proper usage while productize is NOT.  =
Yes they are the same thing in the sense that both refer to taking =
something, including an idea or concept, and turning it into something =
that can be exploited in commerce.

Gary
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:44a3892e{at}w3.nls.net...
     Commercializing and productizing are not the same.  The English =
language has lots of words with similar or overlapping but distinct = meanings.

  Rich

    "Gary Britt"  wrote in message =
news:44a308b4$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    Commercializing would be the correct term and the term that has been =
in wide use for decades.  For example, phrases such as the "right to =
commercialize derivative works" of a copyrighted product have existed
= for many decades.  Productizing is non-standard usage that would seem to
= me was created by people who are less verbal than they needed to be.  =
Whether the term was created at or is used at places other than = Microsoft
is of no concern.  Anyone who uses the term anywhere is using =
non-standard english that a more verbal and more educated person would =
certainly avoid. =20

    Just because literate people might understand what a speaker means =
when they say "our product is 'more gooder' than the competition"
= doesn't make it proper usage.  Therefore, I find your argument that the =
meaning and intent of a speaker who uses "productizing" is
discernable = to the listener is not a credible defense of its usage.

    Gary
      "Rich"  wrote in message news:44a2e7a9{at}w3.nls.net...
         I have no spin.  I can say that productizing as a verb is not =
double speak.  It gets used all the time to describe taking a = technology,
prototype, internal tool, etc and making it or incorporating = it into a
product.  To someone who speaks English you would think the = meaning would
be clear.  I very much doubt it is a Microsoft term.  I'm = sure it is
widely used.

      Rich

        "Adam"
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the =
bridge"> wrote in message news:44a043f0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
        Mike N. wrote:
        > On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:41:53 -0400, "Rich Gauszka" =

        > wrote:
        >=20
        >> "With most of our effort now working towards productizing =
mature aspects of the=20
        >> WinFS project into SQL and ADO.NET, we do not need to deliver =
a separate=20
        >> WinFS offering."
        >=20
        >   "productizing" - adv (English): Special word to introduce =
doublespeak and
        > make it sound like you are saying something significant when =
you wish avoid
        > the real subject because you are not comfortable talking about =
it.

        I will be curious to see Rich S's spin on this.

        Adam
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Yes and No.  No they are not
the same thing =
in the=20
sense that one (commercialize) is acceptable and proper usage while = productize=20
is NOT.  Yes they are the same thing in the sense that both refer
= to taking=20
something, including an idea or concept, and turning it into something = that can=20
be exploited in commerce.
 
Gary

  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:44a3892e{at}w3.nls.net...
    
Commercializing and =
productizing are=20
  not the same.  The English language has lots of words with =
similar or=20
  overlapping but distinct meanings.
   
  Rich
   
  

    "Gary Britt" <glb{at}gencog.com>=20">mailto:glb{at}gencog.com">glb{at}gencog.com>=20
    wrote in message news:44a308b4$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    Commercializing would be the correct term =
and the term=20
    that has been in wide use for decades.  For example, phrases =
such as=20
    the "right to commercialize derivative works" of a copyrighted =
product have=20
    existed for many decades.  Productizing is non-standard =
usage that=20
    would seem to me was created by people who are less verbal than they =
needed=20
    to be.  Whether the term was created at or is used at places =
other than=20
    Microsoft is of no concern.  Anyone who uses the term anywhere =
is using=20
    non-standard english that a more verbal and more educated person =
would=20
    certainly avoid.  
     
    Just because literate people might =
understand what a=20
    speaker means when they say "our product is 'more gooder' than the=20
    competition" doesn't make it proper usage.  Therefore, I find =
your=20
    argument that the meaning and intent of a speaker who=20
    uses "productizing" is discernable to the
listener is =
not a=20
    credible defense of its usage.
     
    Gary
    

      "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:44a2e7a9{at}w3.nls.net...
         I have no =
spin.  I can say=20
      that productizing as a verb is not double speak.  It gets =
used all=20
      the time to describe taking a technology, prototype, internal =
tool, etc=20
      and making it or incorporating it into a product.  To someone =
who=20
      speaks English you would think the meaning would be clear.  I =
very=20
      much doubt it is a Microsoft term.  I'm sure it is widely=20
      used.
       
      Rich
       
      
        "Adam" <""4thwormcastfromthemole=">mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the'>"4thwormcastfromthemole=
hill\"{at}the=20
        field.near the bridge"> wrote in message news:44a043f0$1{at}w3.nls.net...Mike=20
        N. wrote:> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:41:53 -0400, "Rich =
Gauszka"=20
        <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>>=20">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com>>=20
        wrote:> >> "With most
of our effort now working =
towards=20
        productizing mature aspects of the >> WinFS project =
into SQL=20
        and ADO.NET, we do not need to deliver a separate
>> =
WinFS=20
        offering.">
>   "productizing" - adv =
(English):=20
        Special word to introduce doublespeak and> make it sound =
like you=20
        are saying something significant when you wish avoid> the =
real=20
        subject because you are not comfortable talking about =
it.I will=20
        be curious to see Rich S's spin on=20
    =
this.Adam

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